accidently put off road fuel in my 04.5 !

[TFucili]

Not clear in your post. but was your truck "parked" when checked?

Yes, parked at our place of business.

 

[Mhannink]

here in norcal i have heard of it but have never seen it i also know people that have had it done.

 

[JWash1]

I make that same mistake every other week, not sure how it keeps happening

I have been known to make the same mistake on occasion, it is an honest mistake.

The two pumps being right next to each other, both with green nozzels and everything.

 

[JasonCzerak]

Yes, parked at our place of business.

Something smells fishy about that..... I'd put a lock on it. with a note "STAY THE %^#$ OUT OF MY FUEL TANK, It's Parked RETARD" Put a video cam on your truck with a mic on the truck and post it on the intrawebs, Take the city to court and sue them for $10,000

 

[Bob V]

Just remember, the fuel taxes are what pays for all those roads you drive on, so unless you want to build your own roads, pay your share.

Thank you

 

[Tspanos]

Just remember, the fuel taxes are what pays for all those roads you drive on, so unless you want to build your own roads, pay your share.

Thank you

I understand this, and have never run offroad in my truck but living in New England all the fuel tax does is add to the wallets of the politicians, our road are horrible. The only exception is Vermont which has fantastic roads even their gravel roads are nice after the spring mud is gone.

As for a desire to run off road, it truely doesn't make sense anymore your saving 35 to 40 cents a gallon on nearly $5. It's not even a savings of 10% now. Eight years ago though the tax was around 30 cents on $1. 05 gallon of fuel and equated to a savings of more than 30%, now that is appealing both the savings and the old price of fuel! Oh well.



As for the original post like some others have stated it will do no harm to your truck just run it down to as close to empty as you dare, put a couple gallons in it, run around, and repeat a couple times to get all the dye out so you don't get pinched by the state.

 

[NScott]

If you are worried too much, before you drive, you could siphon almost all of it out and refill with "clear" diesel before hitting the road.

 

[TFucili]

Something smells fishy about that..... I'd put a lock on it. with a note "STAY THE %^#$ OUT OF MY FUEL TANK, It's Parked RETARD" Put a video cam on your truck with a mic on the truck and post it on the intrawebs, Take the city to court and sue them for $10,000

I understand your sentiment, but it was a state employee, in full uniform, driving a state vehicle, not some Mickey-Mouse local yocal. I'm sure their argument would be that if it is licensed for highway use, it must burn highway, read that as TAXED, fuel, whether parked or not. That's all 2500 miles away from me now, so, with all due respect for my family and friends who are stuck in that cesspool, I really don't give a rat's patootie what happens in that communist state. All the city slickers and New Yawkas swarmed in and drove all the farmers out of what was once a very rural part of the state, so I hope they are enjoying their 150+miles/day commute to their city slicker jobs at $4/gallon.

 

[10-9jc]

I live in SoCal and I have never heard of or seen a diptest, maybe they do it to big rig truckers, I drive all over LA and haven't seen such a thing.

Can't imagine why you haven't seen tanks being checked in L. A. , LOL!



Just where in So. CA would you find any place to buy non-road (red) diesel?



Not too many tractors in Brentwood, Hollywood or Beverly Hills, LOL!

Don't think you'll find any in Culver City or Redondo Beach either.



EVERY "big rig" stops at truck scales (when they're open) - CHP (and/or any state) could check anytime they want.

Owner Operators aren't that stupid - and company drivers don't pay for their fuel.



But, keep watching for the guy delivering fuel oil for furnaces!

 

[Paddy McMahon]

Red dye diesel available all over up here in Santa Barbara County..... and yes the boys running heavy equipment do get checked occasionally when driving their light duty pick ups. My buddy won't even put off road fuel in his 10,000gal equipment water truck as it can be driven on the roadway! According to two different grading contractors in Santa Barbara/ Santa Ynez the key to getting checked in a pickup truck is to have an in bed transfer tank. It tells officials that you have greater potential to break the law.

 

[mrsnow]

I too have an 04. 5 and have "accidently":-laf put off-road in it, but mine was free. No notable difference in performance either.

 

[JasonCzerak]

I understand your sentiment, but it was a state employee, in full uniform, driving a state vehicle, not some Mickey-Mouse local yocal. I'm sure their argument would be that if it is licensed for highway use, it must burn highway, read that as TAXED, fuel, whether parked or not. That's all 2500 miles away from me now, so, with all due respect for my family and friends who are stuck in that cesspool, I really don't give a rat's patootie what happens in that communist state. All the city slickers and New Yawkas swarmed in and drove all the farmers out of what was once a very rural part of the state, so I hope they are enjoying their 150+miles/day commute to their city slicker jobs at $4/gallon.

I see your point about full uniform and how it's registered, however, I wouldn't DISALLOW it, but I would want to supervise them touching my truck with out permission. If a scratch shows up, or the "tester" falls apart. I'd want it known now and documented and not find out after the fact with a toasted fuel pump.

 

[KBlankenship]

I don'y know about other parts of the country but here in Virginia the two diesels are different, road diesel is ulsd and has less the 15 parts per million and off road diesel has more than 500 parts per million. I have run off road diesel in my truck before and it runs better the engine is quieter and off road has more sulphur and we all know that means more lubricity but it does smokes more and can be a giveaway to someone running it in their truck.

 

[MrBee]

Since I was in Law enforcement I wonder what the legallity of them checking your fuel without a warrant.

I Don't remember signing off on this when I registered my vehicle or got my drivers license. Since you are entering a part of a vehicle that cannot pose immediate danger,(especially if it is locked) and actually removing something (however small) I would think a warrant my me required.

Now if you put this arguement to a police officer, he may just hold you until a telephonic search warrant is given by a sitting judge. At night might not be available.

I would love to hear how this is done skirting the requirement. It has been 10 years since I was in law enforcement so laws certainly could have changed.

Just curious... .

 

[MrBee]

Not only the issue of probable cause for the stop or check point.

This is America, you just cannot stop somebody or detain without probable cause that you can atriculate to a reasonable person in a jury.

 

[kruisecontrol]

so what happens if they dipstick your tank and pull frenchfries oil with brown dye?

 

[GaryOwen]

I came upon a roadblock in Texas where they were dipping, but they didn't check mine. Officer told me they were only checking trucks that were filling up with off-road diesel at the truckstop up the road! Evidently had someone there watching those filling with off-road diesel.



Gary

 

[MMeier]

so what happens if they dipstick your tank and pull frenchfries oil with brown dye?

Same thing, did you pay any road use taxes on it? If not, you are in deep doo doo!

 

[kruisecontrol]

so does anybody know what the procedure is to pay beforehand these taxes or how to set it up. i never heard of anyone using home bio paying taxes, how about electric cars? they use the road too.



i believe taxes are for petroleum ,federal & local ,epa + other taxes , i would like someone to breakdown the difference between electric cars & svo.

 

[The patriot]

After 100K + miles, the ol 12 valve dont know the difference.

I'm now getting green fuel for $3. 00 a gallon.

What does the green dye mean?