For starters, this is not directed at diesel, gas, car, truck, or horsepower "newbies". there is a difference between not knowing, and thinking you know. Not knowing is ok, you gotta start somewhere. But when you don't know... don't go preaching you're made up BS to other people that don't know either.
Where is this coming from? A few places actually. Nowadays theres online forums that come up for basically anything you can google. This has led me to some interesting sites. At the risk of sounding arrogant, TDR is by far one of the most (and only) intelligent forums on the internet. Most of the rest (save a few others, ie. Ramcharger Central) are morons babbling on and on because they like to hear themselves talk... err... type.
Case #1:
I happened upon an "unbiased" diesel forum while trolling the internet one day, and the topic of the particular post basically boiled down to some guy looking to buy a diesel truck and wasn't sure what to go with, what year, ferd, Dodge, chebby, etc. The post drifted toward Dodge diesels. There was some discussion over the Cummins over the years, and at one point, a Dodge Cummins owner decided to write up all the "facts" on the Dodge Cummins trucks. He was either a late 2nd gen owner (2000 up), or a 3rd gen owner.
He started by saying that 89-93 were good motors in that they just kept running, but you can't really get any power out of them. Huh? Do you want to tell that to the beemer that I made a fool of?
He went on to say that 94-97 had a different kind of pump that he's not sure of, but it wasn't very powerful either. Then in 97 until 98 they had a p-pump that would "make gobs of power". Need I say more? Ridiculous.
On another forum a guy said that "engine size is directly related to fuel economy. " This is the most erroneous pile of dung that a lot of people seem to get wrong. True, a larger engine will, in general, use more fuel. Directly related though? Hardly. The Cummins can get 18 miles to the gallon, but if you had a 1. 8L sentra motor lugging around 6500lbs everywhere it went, I would imagine it would probably do even worse on fuel. Or how about that my dad's 3. 0L accord can get 25-30, where as an "evo" with a turbocharged 2. 0L gets 18 miles to the gallon. In fact, my 5. 7 Hemi in the Challenger gets 17, and thats almost 3 times the displacement. It's all about burn efficiency, peak rpms, gearing, and load. Yeah, displacement works into the equation, but to phrase it the way this guy did is just wrong.
Then theres's the guy in my neighborhood who has a mid 90's 4 door longbed ferd powerjoke with stacks. He came up to me in the liquor store parking lot one day and tried to spin his diesel tales. He asked me, and I quote "do you have the p-pump in this thing, or the bosch pump?" Sit down, you're ignorant. The p-pump is a bosch, moron. He then proceeded to say "well, whatever, you gotta have the p-pump, I know these things don't have any power with the other pump. " He went on and on about how trucks like mine aren't fast. I told him I'd race him and he declined. Keep talking, buddy, I'm sure the women in your life are impressed...
End rant... .
Where is this coming from? A few places actually. Nowadays theres online forums that come up for basically anything you can google. This has led me to some interesting sites. At the risk of sounding arrogant, TDR is by far one of the most (and only) intelligent forums on the internet. Most of the rest (save a few others, ie. Ramcharger Central) are morons babbling on and on because they like to hear themselves talk... err... type.
Case #1:
I happened upon an "unbiased" diesel forum while trolling the internet one day, and the topic of the particular post basically boiled down to some guy looking to buy a diesel truck and wasn't sure what to go with, what year, ferd, Dodge, chebby, etc. The post drifted toward Dodge diesels. There was some discussion over the Cummins over the years, and at one point, a Dodge Cummins owner decided to write up all the "facts" on the Dodge Cummins trucks. He was either a late 2nd gen owner (2000 up), or a 3rd gen owner.
He started by saying that 89-93 were good motors in that they just kept running, but you can't really get any power out of them. Huh? Do you want to tell that to the beemer that I made a fool of?
He went on to say that 94-97 had a different kind of pump that he's not sure of, but it wasn't very powerful either. Then in 97 until 98 they had a p-pump that would "make gobs of power". Need I say more? Ridiculous.
On another forum a guy said that "engine size is directly related to fuel economy. " This is the most erroneous pile of dung that a lot of people seem to get wrong. True, a larger engine will, in general, use more fuel. Directly related though? Hardly. The Cummins can get 18 miles to the gallon, but if you had a 1. 8L sentra motor lugging around 6500lbs everywhere it went, I would imagine it would probably do even worse on fuel. Or how about that my dad's 3. 0L accord can get 25-30, where as an "evo" with a turbocharged 2. 0L gets 18 miles to the gallon. In fact, my 5. 7 Hemi in the Challenger gets 17, and thats almost 3 times the displacement. It's all about burn efficiency, peak rpms, gearing, and load. Yeah, displacement works into the equation, but to phrase it the way this guy did is just wrong.
Then theres's the guy in my neighborhood who has a mid 90's 4 door longbed ferd powerjoke with stacks. He came up to me in the liquor store parking lot one day and tried to spin his diesel tales. He asked me, and I quote "do you have the p-pump in this thing, or the bosch pump?" Sit down, you're ignorant. The p-pump is a bosch, moron. He then proceeded to say "well, whatever, you gotta have the p-pump, I know these things don't have any power with the other pump. " He went on and on about how trucks like mine aren't fast. I told him I'd race him and he declined. Keep talking, buddy, I'm sure the women in your life are impressed...
End rant... .