Guns, Bows, Shooting Sports, and Hunting 22 magnum ?

[Tractorat]

I inherited a winchester 9422M XTR lever action rifle from my dad. (Found it in his house after he died, he never used it for anything. Not a gun guy)



Anyway, I see it is stamped on the rifle 22 magnum. Does that mean that I can only use 22 magnum ammo ? Ive got about 10 boxes of LR, but I dont know if I dare use it in this rifle or not.

 

[BIGNASTY]

I wouldn't shoot Mag's in it they are to expensive and to destructive on small game that your going to eat, I don't USALLY shoot anything that I don't intend to eat, there are exceptions of course but I guess a person could conceivably eat just about anything. Here is a link to your question

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Wi...t-75th-Anniversary-22-LR.cfm?gun_id=100375320

 

[Tractorat]

Thanks,
I probably wont shoot at anything other than a target with this gun. But it's free to me, and I kind of like it.

I downloaded a manual for it from the internet and it says to use WMR ammo (?) which seems to be magnum. If thats what it is, it says to not use anything else.

 

[BarryG]

Do not shoot 22 short or 22 long rifle through it. 22 mags are a hoot to shoot. No kick but more powerful than a 22. They scream down range along the velocity of a17hmr with a bit more energy the farther down range the bigger the difference in energy. Only problem you will have is finding ammo for it. While it is usually easy to find the last year it has gone the way of hte 22 long rifle just plain hard to find any. Used to be you could get a box of 50 for about $10 now it is more like $12 when you can find it. It is out there people are just buying it up like crazy. One of my personal favorite plinking rounds personal favorite 22mag ammo is cci maxi mags.



yes it is a 22 magnum and ammo will be marked 22 magnum or 22wmr. If you compare two shells side by side you would see the obvious difference like here

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...a=X&ei=8JxUUqriPMq8yAHHwYHABA&ved=0CC0Q9QEwAA

 

[Tractorat]

Now all I have to do is find them. Are they even made anymore ?

 

[BarryG]

Definitely still made it is a very popular round. Unfortunately it seems people are buying them up like crazy , hoarding them. Same thing is happening with 22 long rifle

 

[B.G. Smith]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Winchester_Magnum_Rimfire#Dimensions_.26_Loading Lots of ammo out there but some of it is a little pricey. Also, depending on the condition of the rifle, it's pretty pricey too. bg

 

[HHhuntitall]

Excellent rifle, excellent chambering. I have two, one XTR and one older model without the checkered stock. They are no longer made and highly desireable on the market both to collectors and shooters... . well, when ammo was more readily available... . 22WMR (Winchester Magnum Rimfire) is an excellent caliber, capable of taking all small game and arguably larger game. It is very popular with fur trappers for it's killing power, which typically doesn't make much, if any exit hole, which doesn't damage fur. It falls in the power range between . 22LR and . 22 Hornet, filling a nice little niche. The highly popular . 17HMR was based off the . 22WMR cartridge, necking it down to . 17 caliber. . 22LR is not compatible, and I doubt it would even fire in the considerably larger chamber, and it certainly wouldn't feed in the tubular magazine very well, most likely jamming the feed ramps in the receiver.

If the rifle has been taken care of, it's considerably worth more now than when purchased new, and will fire many rounds downrange over a long period of time.

 

[p-Bar]

I own a Savage over/under 22mag top 20ga. bottom. great varmit gun dad had the same except 22lr so when I bought mine he said get the mag better kill power.

 

[WCPoe]

Now all I have to do is find them. Are they even made anymore ?

Around here the 22 magnum, (22WMR) stuff is easier to find than the 22 long rifle. That being said you might try this link for ammo.

http://ammoseek.com/ Just select what you are looking for and it will list them in increasing price order and tell when it was last updated.

 

[Tractorat]

Found some this morning at two different stores. $20 for 50 shells. You could only buy 2 boxes per customer. But more than enough for me.

 

[Loghead]

T'rat,



If you get addicted to shooting the little Magnum then finding an online source would probably be to your advantage - if your leftist maven haven of Washington allows it.

I've gotten lots of ammo from Midway and Palmetto State Armory. The Sportsman's Guide is another source you could check out. I actually checked at Cheaper Than Dirt, but they had a paltry selection for . 22 Magnum.

I know that Midway and Sportsman's Guide will send e-mail notification when ammo you want becomes available.

The only drawback is that you need to order quite alot of ammo to justify the shipping costs.



But...

if you, like me, are living in a state where freedom is heaving its last gasp - and people hoard ammo of all calibers, just in case - you might have no better alternative.



Anyway, congrats on getting your hands on such a sweet little gun. I looked high and low for a Winchester lever gun in . 22Magnum for one of my daughters, with no luck.

She ended up with two lever action rifles:

A Marlin 30/30 and a Henry . 22LR. :-laf



It just warms your heart when they grow up right.

 

[AH64ID]

22WMR is fun to shoot, I have Ruger Single-Six with interchangeable cylinders for 22LR and 22WMR.

Several aspects of the case are slightly larger on the WMR, so you definitely don't want to shoot LR in it.

 

[B.G. Smith]

http://ammoseek.com/ bg

 

[Tractorat]

I took it with me hunting this last week and fired off a few rounds. (well, quite a few) I like it. Think Ill keep it.

 

[AMink]

Don't shoot Long Rifle in a magnum chamber. The case on a . 22LR is a smaller diameter than the magnum. The LR bullet (. 22") kind of "hangs" over the case. A magnum, still a . 22" bullet, seats the bullet like a regular center fire case. The bullet sits in the case and the case is exposed. Clear as mud?

 

[HHhuntitall]

Don't shoot Long Rifle in a magnum chamber. The case on a . 22LR is a smaller diameter than the magnum. The LR bullet (. 22") kind of "hangs" over the case. A magnum, still a . 22" bullet, seats the bullet like a regular center fire case. The bullet sits in the case and the case is exposed. Clear as mud?

Welll, it's a bit more complicated than that, AMink ..... NOT to talk down to ANYONE, but the cartridge dimensions prevent any interchange... . The bullet diameter, design, and seating is not the problem, here. The problem is the cartridge cases themselves are of such different dimensions, firing a . 22LR round in a . 22WMR chamber will cause the case to rupture, spewing hot gas and probably pieces of metal back out the receiver, and perhaps even not allowing the bullet enough pressure to escape the bore... . It'd doubtful you could even get the . 22LR to fire, as the rim diameter of the cartridge (. 272) is only slightly larger than the case diameter (. 242) of the Magnum, allowing it to stay in position, but it would randomly fall in various places in the chamber. Case diameter of the . 22LR is . 226. The rim is also thinner (. 043 vs . 050), so headspacing would be extremely loose, and the firing pin wouldn't be able to strike it properly in most instances. It would be in comparison to shooting a . 22Hornet in a . 223Rem chamber, with less overall pressures, of course... . Chamber damage would be possible, as well as damage to the firing pin, bolt face, breech, and possibly the shooter. Pieces of the cartridge could even go down the bore. It would have to be cleaned thoroughly afterwards, and examined for damage properly by a gunsmith, IMO.....

Quick fun!! Name the cartridges, Left to right!!! (Uhhh, up to down... . ? Stupid computers... . It doesn't show as being sideways on my PC..... :grrr

 

[AMink]

Welll, it's a bit more complicated than that, AMink ..... NOT to talk down to ANYONE, but the cartridge dimensions prevent any interchange... . The bullet diameter, design, and seating is not the problem, here. The problem is the cartridge cases themselves are of such different dimensions, firing a . 22LR round in a . 22WMR chamber will cause the case to rupture, spewing hot gas and probably pieces of metal back out the receiver, and perhaps even not allowing the bullet enough pressure to escape the bore... . It'd doubtful you could even get the . 22LR to fire, as the rim diameter of the cartridge (. 272) is only slightly larger than the case diameter (. 242) of the Magnum, allowing it to stay in position, but it would randomly fall in various places in the chamber. Case diameter of the . 22LR is . 226. The rim is also thinner (. 043 vs . 050), so headspacing would be extremely loose, and the firing pin wouldn't be able to strike it properly in most instances. It would be in comparison to shooting a . 22Hornet in a . 223Rem chamber, with less overall pressures, of course... . Chamber damage would be possible, as well as damage to the firing pin, bolt face, breech, and possibly the shooter. Pieces of the cartridge could even go down the bore. It would have to be cleaned thoroughly afterwards, and examined for damage properly by a gunsmith, IMO.....



Quick fun!! Name the cartridges, Left to right!!! (Uhhh, up to down... . ? Stupid computers... . It doesn't show as being sideways on my PC..... :grrr



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I thought that's what I said! . 17 hmr, . 17M2, . 22 short, . 22lr, . 22mag, Hornet, . 222, . 223? Not sure about the center fires.

 

[HHhuntitall]

Yes, but I was concerned you didn't go far enough to explain..... I wanted to make it clear with numbers... . NO offense intended, of course!!

Hey, almost!! The centerfires are common loaded ammo... .

 

[AMink]

Yes, but I was concerned you didn't go far enough to explain..... I wanted to make it clear with numbers... . NO offense intended, of course!!

Hey, almost!! The centerfires are common loaded ammo... .

No offense taken. Basically, a LR will go in the chamber for a magnum, like a 16 will "fit" in a 12 gauge.