2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission timbren springs

[SAndreasen]

Anybody using timbren springs are they as good as air bags ?

 

[SnoKing]

Anybody using timbren springs are they as good as air bags ?

Ruff ride compared to air bag when the load bumps them! SNOKING

 

[Bill Stockard]

Anybody using timbren springs are they as good as air bags ?

I have them on my truck. It hauls a heavy slide-in truck camper about 95% of the miles that are on it and is not a daily driver. My Timbren upgrade does the same thing as air bags without requiring air and replaced an Air Lift 5000 air bag system with on board air and in-cab controls and gauges. I ran the air bags at 30-psi when hauling the camper to raise the rear of the truck slightly. Without the camper and the truck bed lightly loaded, the Timbrens, like air bags, can affect the truck's ride. Before I installed a set of Torklift StableLoads on the truck's frame mounted overload spring bump stops, I had considered going back to PacBrake air bags, but with the StableLoads, I don't need air bags and probably could get by without the Timbrens also, but I haven't gone to the trouble of trying it since I drive my truck unloaded so seldom.

Bill

 

[GAmes]

IMO, not as good as air bags, at least not in my application. I used to have Timbrens, now I have air. However, with the aux tank in the front of the bed, a rear mounted toolbox, and a 5er hitch in the middle, there is always at least 600 pounds in the bed and about 1000 with the tank filled. The trailers I tow go from 70 pounds hitch weight on the receiver to 3000 pounds gooseneck/5er pin weight. Being able to adjust ride height is a big plus.

 

[Bill Stockard]

IMO, not as good as air bags, at least not in my application. I used to have Timbrens, now I have air. However, with the aux tank in the front of the bed, a rear mounted toolbox, and a 5er hitch in the middle, there is always at least 600 pounds in the bed and about 1000 with the tank filled. The trailers I tow go from 70 pounds hitch weight on the receiver to 3000 pounds gooseneck/5er pin weight. Being able to adjust ride height is a big plus.

I agree. Air bags work much better in your application since your hitch loads vary so widely whereas my loaded weight is nearly constant and I needed relatively little air pressure to adjust ride height. Timbrens provided that height adjustment by their compression without using air. With the Torklift StableLoads placing more of the weight on the stiffer overload springs, I no longer need any adjustment to ride height. Another benefit of more weight being transferred to the overload springs... sway caused by cross winds and passing trucks is diminished.

Bill

 

[SAndreasen]

Ruff ride compared to air bag when the load bumps them! SNOKING

Have you used these before ? They are as much as air bags thats what I'm wondering how they would compare .

 

[SAndreasen]

I have them on my truck. It hauls a heavy slide-in truck camper about 95% of the miles that are on it and is not a daily driver. My Timbren upgrade does the same thing as air bags without requiring air and replaced an Air Lift 5000 air bag system with on board air and in-cab controls and gauges. I ran the air bags at 30-psi when hauling the camper to raise the rear of the truck slightly. Without the camper and the truck bed lightly loaded, the Timbrens, like air bags, can affect the truck's ride. Before I installed a set of Torklift StableLoads on the truck's frame mounted overload spring bump stops, I had considered going back to PacBrake air bags, but with the StableLoads, I don't need air bags and probably could get by without the Timbrens also, but I haven't gone to the trouble of trying it since I drive my truck unloaded so seldom.

Bill

What are stable loads ?

 

[SnoKing]

Have you used these before ? They are as much as air bags thats what I'm wondering how they would compare .

Friend installed them on his 2500HD Duramax and did not like them and switch to air bags. He said on certain load they really jarred you. SNOKING

 

[GAmes]

They are not air bags. They are stiff rubber canisters shaped like a spring. Once the weight of the truck has been increased enough for them to make contact they have very little give.

 

[Bill Stockard]

What are stable loads ?

I have installed the upper StableLoads on my truck.

Bill

 

[Bill Stockard]

They are not air bags. They are stiff rubber canisters shaped like a spring. Once the weight of the truck has been increased enough for them to make contact they have very little give.

The Timbrens on my truck are different from your description. They are hollow aeon rubber with a hole in the center that contacts the axle. The hollow Timbren traps air inside it when it contacts the axle which pressurizes it like an air bag. The pressurized Timbren acts similar to an air bag; however, unlike an air bag the pressure cannot be increased to raise the vehicle.
http://timbren.com/education/

Bill

 

[KATOOM]

I have Timbrens and I think they do a pretty spectacular job. NEVER needing airing or adjusting, they're always there to help and if they're installed correctly and you have the right ones for your truck scenario then they work perfect. What I mean by that is some people have them mounted too far or to close to the axle which will cause them to either not work properly or make for a rough ride. The kits are based on completely stock trucks, stock heights, and good condition OEM leaf springs. And that said, if the Timbren spring you received in your kit isnt right for what you're doing with your truck then all you have to do is call Timbren and they'll send you another set of springs based on your needs.
One reason people get airbags is because they believe that they dont affect the ride while aired down but.....if you ask around long enough you'll find those honest people who will tell you that even with the 5 pound minimum air psi in the bags, they still affect unloaded ride quality.

 

[Bill Stockard]

One reason people get airbags is because they believe that they dont affect the ride while aired down but.....if you ask around long enough you'll find those honest people who will tell you that even with the 5 pound minimum air psi in the bags, they still affect unloaded ride quality.

Yep, that's been my experience with one 3rd gen and two 2nd gen 3500 dually trucks.

Bill

 

[SAndreasen]

My truck weighs just under 7000 without the flatbed with the flatbed 8400 so I have a pretty good preload on the leaf springs already . Has anybody ever had problems with there airbags a friend blew an airbag on his s10 so that's why I was thinking of timbren springs .