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It's not cold, 29*. My fuel heaters are working. Fuel is drained once a week from filter housings. The fuel I'm using is treated. Truck was running perfect. Engine light dinged and came on and about 10 miles later the truck lost power and fell on its face. I pulled over and drained both housings just for the fun of it. Fuel was warm coming out of both and not gelled what so ever.
 
I suspected a rear fuel heater issue, but I'd imagined you'd had an issue with it long before now if you bought the truck new. 29*F would not have been a challenge for it it anyway. The P0087 is Fuel Rail/System Pressure - Too Low....the others are cylinder #1 through #6 Injector Circuit Malfunction codes. Maybe you can check connectors at the fuel rail. No way one could have all 6 injectors malfunction / go bad simultaneously.

It's gotta be something SIMPLE !!! :)
 
Ok, mechanic diagnosed my situation as a complete fuel system contamination. He claims that both of the truck filters were gelled solid and the under hood housing only had an inch of fuel in it. He preceded to show me the completely full Gatorade bottle fuel sample he drained from my under hood housing. This sample looked like orange and brown swamp water with about and inch of clear water on the bottom.

So my first question to him, how did you fill that whole bottle when there was only an inch of fuel in the housing? He says, this bottle is the equivalent to an inch in the housing. Interesting, a 32 oz bottle is the equivalent to an inch of diesel in the housing.
Second question, how did that water and diesel separate so fast? My truck has only been back here for 10 minutes. He says, that's what it always does. Your bulk tank is what's causing the contaminated fuel.
Third question to him, since I pump double filtered fuel out of my bulk tank into my truck, the filters on my bulk should be gelled and have swamp water fuel in them too, right? He says, yes.

I pumped 20 oz of fuel out of my bulk into an empty water bottle in front of him and the other mechanics. The fuel was perfect in color and not gelled one bit. One of the other mechanics commented that my see thru water separator on the bulk wasn't gelled either.

My next question, did you pull the codes off the truck? He says, I hooked up my scanner and couldn't read any codes. Really? Then how can I pull them up with mine? He says, that's the problem now a days. All you wanna be diesel techs think you know it all with all your junk products you buy. It just makes our jobs as actual techs a lot harder. I said, no, I just makes it that much easier for us to call you out on your b*llsh*t. He said I was just a smart mouth know it all. I told him to have sexual relations with his mother and the conversation ended.

In the end, they wanted to keep the truck for two weeks to clean out the fuel system, which wouldn't be covered under warranty. No, change the fuel filters and I'm taking the truck home.
 
I bet they keep that gatorade bottle to sell unnecessary fuel system cleaning to other customers?

There was another thread on this. In the other thread, all the parts were under warrantee, but the fuel system cleaning wasn't.

But there was something that didn't sit well with me in that thread either. It would be easy to show a contaminated system even if that wasn't the case when the customer comes in for service.
 
I bet they keep that gatorade bottle to sell unnecessary fuel system cleaning to other customers?

There was another thread on this. In the other thread, all the parts were under warrantee, but the fuel system cleaning wasn't.

But there was something that didn't sit well with me in that thread either. It would be easy to show a contaminated system even if that wasn't the case when the customer comes in for service.

When we left there, my wife said the exact same thing about that bottle. I remember that other thread. Mine is still under warranty. The tech even said it probably wouldn't need any new parts but the system definitely needs to be cleaned. Which just like you said, wouldn't be covered. Ya, no thanks.
 
Does the truck stay parked inside or outside???? The only other alternative I can come up with, after reading and re-reading this several times, is vandalism to the OEM tank...

Something caused the codes......unless something was loose / not making a good connection, then they reconnected it and tried to "hose" you on the unneeded service.
 
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Truck is always outside at our apartment. Our neighbors are mostly older folks that I help out with everything, so I don't think they'd do it. At work, there's just four of us on the crew and we all get along great, been working together for years.

I also thought maybe something came loose or something of the like. Who knows!? I am certain it wasn't gelled as I saw both filters and I pulled fuel samples out of the truck and bulk tank myself.
 
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