I can’t answer for CumminZ on his choice but I spent two years reviewing different 5th wheel manufactures and what I wanted. Cedar Creek to me had the most of what I wanted and my wife wanted in a new 5th wheel, this is our third 5thwheel we have owned. I wanted a 12” frame the Cedar Creek offers a 10” frame with a welded 2” tube on the top of the frame, structurally this is OK. The following items were also required by either me or my wife; Hydraulic driven 6-point leveling system, Wet bolt system for the suspension with Bronze bushings, G rated tires, Trail Air pin box, two ducted AC units, Roller shades with true room darkening features (not the pleated day/night shades that let pin holes of light in), Residential refrigerator with inverter, central vacuum cleaner, center island, recliners and fireplace. These where the most important features along with the rest of what Cedar Creek Hathaway editions has to offer.