VERY DISAPPOINTED

[BIGNASTY]

I was disappointed when I helped out my Grandsons 4 H group with transporting livestock to the State fair. Ive had 8 horses in the trailer and my 04.5 did just fine (After the transmission was replaced with a DTT unit) This 4th gen isn't what I was expecting, about the same power as the 04.5. Finally was able to get a decent ride after jamming the 3 axle gooseneck trailer with the livestock & feed for the trip.

 

[AH64ID]

Big,

You don’t have the specs in your sig, but I recall you saying that the ‘14 is a Cab and Chassis model.

The C&C aren’t tuned like the pickups and have 325/750 compared to 325/600 on your 04.5.

The 14 will have a lower power and thou, as peak power is at 2400 vs 2900.

The Cab and Chassis will also be heavier, but not sure how much since I don’t know what model you have.

What are the specs on the 4th gen truck?

Is your 04.5 stock?

 

[Wiredawg]

Big,

I don't see the trucks you're comparing in a signature or the post, but are you comparing ride/performance between a 2004.5 Ram 2500/3500 and a Ram 4500? I'm pulling from memory (not very good) on what you have.

Cheers, Ron

 

[NIsaacs]

Apples and oranges. '04 4x2 pickup v/s 4x4 5500 truck.

 

[Wiredawg]

Apples and oranges. '04 4x2 pickup v/s 4x4 5500 truck.

And weigh (LoL) different load capacities and weights.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Im sorry for knowing much about the 2014 I can't really say to much about it BECAUSE I DONT KNOW I didn't get to have input when it was ordered for my use in Montana and after being stranded in the middle of nowhere I didn't have much desire to get involved with it. Until Monday Ive been left with NO time to investigate any of the specs other than it being a 2014 CC 5500 Laramie. Now that my only task in my day is to wake up, breath and scratch ill need to get with it on the truck.

The truck is absolutely gorgeous, aluminum rims the interior makes my Stock 04.5 SLT (except the trans) look shabby in comparison its a lot more quiet than the 04. I cant tell about MPG the difference between MT & IN is immense I usually keep track of MPG so I can tell if something may be going south mechanically. Ill be needing this truck more now that I'm working for the family hauling equipment around for a new endeavor growing alfalfa for our livestock, Daughters & Granddaughters horses to Cross Country jumping events.

 

[TFucili]

To get ride quality on a C&C you'll have to go Kelderman four corner full air ride.

 

[Tuesdak]

Lack of Power is easy to solve.

http://www.madselectronics.com/SmartyTouch.html

The commercial tires that last forever can't be helping the ride on our S##### poorly maintained roads. Even some of the new roadwork is left rougher than a cob.

 

[AH64ID]

Im sorry for knowing much about the 2014 I can't really say to much about it BECAUSE I DONT KNOW I didn't get to have input when it was ordered for my use in Montana and after being stranded in the middle of nowhere I didn't have much desire to get involved with it. Until Monday Ive been left with NO time to investigate any of the specs other than it being a 2014 CC 5500 Laramie. Now that my only task in my day is to wake up, breath and scratch ill need to get with it on the truck.

The truck is absolutely gorgeous, aluminum rims the interior makes my Stock 04.5 SLT (except the trans) look shabby in comparison its a lot more quiet than the 04. I cant tell about MPG the difference between MT & IN is immense I usually keep track of MPG so I can tell if something may be going south mechanically. Ill be needing this truck more now that I'm working for the family hauling equipment around for a new endeavor growing alfalfa for our livestock, Daughters & Granddaughters horses to Cross Country jumping events.

To put it into perspective the 5500 C&C is designed for a lot higher GVW than a pickup. So it's MUCH heavier.

What don't you like about the trans? I'd take a stock AS69RC over a built 48RE, especially for towing, any day.

I think you'll come to love it, but if the power isn't what you hoped and it's out of warranty there are some small safe power improvements that can be made.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Lack of Power is easy to solve.

http://www.madselectronics.com/SmartyTouch.html

The commercial tires that last forever can't be helping the ride on our S##### poorly maintained roads. Even some of the new roadwork is left rougher than a cob.

I don't want to mess with a tuner the power is actually OK, its I was expecting more? than what it is. You must have been through the Circle city the roads are worse than when our B 52's laid down a "Carpet Bombing" run in South East Asia.

 

[BIGNASTY]

To put it into perspective the 5500 C&C is designed for a lot higher GVW than a pickup. So it's MUCH heavier.

What don't you like about the trans? I'd take a stock AS69RC over a built 48RE, especially for towing, any day.

I think you'll come to love it, but if the power isn't what you hoped and it's out of warranty there are some small safe power improvements that can be made.

Im used to my DTT trans its shift is Positive and predictable the 14 seems to lite a shift for me its probably a far stronger trans than the 48re its JUST DIFFERENT and change doesn't come easy to me.

 

[lpennock]

To put it into perspective the 5500 C&C is designed for a lot higher GVW than a pickup. So it's MUCH heavier.

^^^^ The 5500 is rated to carry its own weight as payload. Try that with a 3500.

My 06 3500 SRW 4x4 is about 8200 empty with GVWR of 9900. My 08 5500 4x4 with pickup bed was 9700 empty with GVWR of 18750.

 

[BIGNASTY]

^^^^ The 5500 is rated to carry its own weight as payload. Try that with a 3500.

My 06 3500 SRW 4x4 is about 8200 empty with GVWR of 9900. My 08 5500 4x4 with pickup bed was 9700 empty with GVWR of 18750.

HA HA HA If I told you what I've had in the back now my 2500 04 you'd call me on the BS card so I won't tell you. I have Firestone air bags on it so really its not the suspension thats taking the brunt of the weight its the axle berings in the reared thats taking the punishment. That being said I'm sure the 5500 is able to handle the weight far better

 

[Jim W]

Big, I went through INDY this year on my way to the TDR rally and your roads there are almost as bad as the road system in and around Chicago.

I do not know if the Aisin will allow you to manually shift between gears like the 68RFE will allow. If you can, I have found out that towing in the mountains and cities the truck will have more response if you lock out 6th gear. This will keep the engine RPM's up when you are doing 55 MPH in 5th gear instead of under 1400 RPM's in 6th gear. I know the 5500 trucks are geared differently and have different size tire/wheels than my pick-up truck, but the principle is the same with a low engine RPM, the Cummins just doesn't like it.

 

[Wiredawg]

Lack of Power is easy to solve.

http://www.madselectronics.com/SmartyTouch.html

The commercial tires that last forever can't be helping the ride on our S##### poorly maintained roads. Even some of the new roadwork is left rougher than a cob.

This isn't current info, but I got an answer that MADS, Edge, and many others not compatible with 2013 up C&Cs. Check back on it, but doesn't seem there is a big enough market for the R&D.

This is my 2nd C&C and I love 'em. BIG (ha ha) brakes, big axles, cm tires. Not for everyone though. I see mileage number empty around 10 to 11 MPG and GCW 33KLbs 8- 9 MPG. And having a 12.2K lb tow vehicle makes for a very stable platform. Gotta be careful here, I'll wake up the 3500 duallie owners and git that swirl going. Don't forget the 52gal stock fuel tank and 9 gal DEF. All BIG

My duty cycle is 98% towing heavy. I only drive the truck once a week to keep everything good on her. Getting ready to go get milk with it now. If I remember right, you have a flatbed and I have a steel tow body. I believe the extra weight I carry around all the time gives me a bit better ride. I asked my wife if she wanted me to spend $15K on Kelderman all the way around and she said Naw, truck rides fine. Were truck people so it goid for us. My

Hey, just throw it out here anytime you have questions/have an opinion. We'll oblige ya with an answer/opinion.

Cheers, Ron

 

[AH64ID]

This isn't current info, but I got an answer that MADS, Edge, and many others not compatible with 2013 up C&Cs. Check back on it, but doesn't seem there is a big enough market for the R&D.

Who did you talk to at MADS, and when? The Touch has supported 13+ C&C trucks since its release in 2014.

The Touch specifically advertises 13+ C&C trucks.

Support for MY17 C&C trucks was released on Nov 28th 2016.

For Big's use, I would recommend a MM3 and a VERY mild custom tune thou. It would be easy to get a little more power and less EGR, without sacrificing anything.

 

[BIGNASTY]

I think the truck will get plenty of use here. We've removed 200 acres from lease and have had it plowed fertilizer & minerals added and graded for drainage & GPS marked so we can plant alfalfa for our livestock. Right now I use our 30ft gooseneck to haul decent hay from Urbana IL the 5500 hauls the ILLEGAL load just fine on the backroads to avoid INDOT that have no sence of humor about a licensed Farm Truck running illegally. We bought a Case IH L630 tractor, disk-mower & small square bailer that will need transport along with other old tractors that are equipped with rotary hay rakes bale stackers & trailers.

 

[NIsaacs]

Im sorry for knowing much about the 2014 I can't really say to much about it BECAUSE I DONT KNOW I didn't get to have input when it was ordered for my use in Montana and after being stranded in the middle of nowhere I didn't have much desire to get involved with it. Until Monday Ive been left with NO time to investigate any of the specs other than it being a 2014 CC 5500 Laramie.

I think that would be a good start, figuring out what year it is, a '14 or '16

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/threads/2016-5500-exhaust-removal.264747/

 

[BIGNASTY]

Its been suggested the at I NOT use red-dye fuel the exhaust system won't like it. I know for a fact from the folks that PREVIOUSLY employed me that the only difference in Red-dye and ULSD is the Dye???

 

[AH64ID]

Its been suggested the at I NOT use red-dye fuel the exhaust system won't like it. I know for a fact from the folks that PREVIOUSLY employed me that the only difference in Red-dye and ULSD is the Dye???

The fuel system won't care... it's your wallet if the tank ever gets dipped that will be unhappy.