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[HVAC2]

Once the electric thing really gets easier to live with in more demanding service such as towing, simple will be solved. I pulled this up to validate why.
A Tesla Model S has fewer than 150 moving parts, including the drive train, windows, controls, suspension and doors. A typical internal combustion engine car has about 10,000.

 

[Ozymandias]

Once the electric thing really gets easier to live with in more demanding service such as towing, simple will be solved. I pulled this up to validate why.
A Tesla Model S has fewer than 150 moving parts, including the drive train, windows, controls, suspension and doors. A typical internal combustion engine car has about 10,000.

I stick with my 10000 moving parts, i love moving parts, the more the better.
When i was little i sat in front of the washing machine watching it.
Move it baby.

 

[NIsaacs]

I stick with my 10000 moving parts, i love moving parts, the more the better.
When i was little i sat in front of the washing machine watching it.
Move it baby.

Was it gas powered with an exposed wringer? If you didn't stick your hand in the wringer at least once, to see what would happen....

 

[jhenderson]

Was it gas powered with an exposed wringer? If you didn't stick your hand in the wringer at least once, to see what would happen....View attachment 117515

My big brother can tell you. It breaks both your radius and ulna.

 

[Ozymandias]

Was it gas powered with an exposed wringer? If you didn't stick your hand in the wringer at least once, to see what would happen....

I'm not THAT old, we had this beauty some forty years ago.

And would you believe - it is still running strong at my parents house. Had one minor repair over all that years that i know of.
Would love to have such a reliable Car, but sadly the Swiss stopped car manufacturing decades ago.

Side note, the very best ever produced Chrysler cars have been assembled in Switzerland.
https://www.allpar.com/world/switzerland.html

 

[TFucili]

My Mom used a wringer washer into the 1980's. She hated going to an automatic washer.

 

[Jim W]

Once the electric thing really gets easier to live with in more demanding service such as towing, simple will be solved. I pulled this up to validate why.
A Tesla Model S has fewer than 150 moving parts, including the drive train, windows, controls, suspension and doors. A typical internal combustion engine car has about 10,000.

You do realize that mining for these precious metals that are required for an electric vehicle is a environmental disaster. None of the proponents for the electrical vehicles wants to admit to this. Why do you think that all of the mining for the materials/refining takes place in China and 2nd world countries! Were environment laws and regulations are none existent or extremely relaxed and not enforced!

Have you seen what it takes to mine for gold and refine the raw material to achieve the 99.7% pure gold that comes out of the mine! Have you reviewed what it takes to extract the oil out of the oil sands in Canada! This is nothing compared to the mining/refining process that is required to obtain the precious metals that are used for an electrical vehicle.

I would rather give up RVing and driving before I buy a electrical vehicle that is an environment disaster!

 

[EDankievitch]

They say the environmental damage done to the world to make one Toyota hybrid is more than 5 1960’s cars will do in their entire lifetime. 1960’s pre emissions laws that is. So let’s save the world an buy electric!!!

 

[HVAC2]

I was referring to simplicity and reliability.
Environmental impact is another subject and both sides have a viable story.
But, it is the future to go all electric. Cats out of the bag and in less than 5 years it is predicted charging stations will be at most gas stations. Most mfg are stating all electric automobile fleets within 10 years.

 

[TFucili]

Most mfg are stating all electric automobile fleets within 10 years.

Extremely unlikely. The much vaunted Audi has been a flop,and Mercedes just delayed their competitor for a year. Hype does not equal reality.

 

[JohnM45]

Extremely unlikely. The much vaunted Audi has been a flop,and Mercedes just delayed their competitor for a year. Hype does not equal reality.

Don't underestimate the exponential gains in technology...10 years will show some drastic changes. Looking at the automotive racing world, there are gains being made by leaps and bounds - these "gains" will quickly trickle down to everyday cars. Daimler announced earlier this year that they are no longer going to be developing gasoline engines - electric all the way. Moving forward, VW is only racing electric vehicles.

I think all these things are just indicators of where the auto world is going....whether we agree or not, its headed there - the Chief Mad Scientist, Greta, is very angry.

Ten years from now, I REALLY hope I'm allowed to keep my 2500CTD. I really do hope...

 

[kthaxton]

The important thing to understand with the environmental aspects of electric car production vs gasoline/Diesel vehicle operation, is that solid wastes (which includes liquids) can be captured/contained and then controlled, treated or recycled. Air emissions cannot, once air emissions are released to the atmosphere, we get to filter them with our lungs.

This can be of great importance to certain geographical areas surrounded by mountains that are prone to temperature inversions (like here in Salt Lake City) where for weeks at a time, all emissions from cars, industry and buildings get stuck and builds up in the valley.

 

[Ozymandias]

Yes, the german automobile industry is going down the drain right now.

The chinese will like to step into that gap, seeling gasoline cars all over the world that isn't as developed as ours.
Electric is a nice gadget for city slickers and as a second car.
But there are many places on this planet that are faaaaaar away from that, go travel, explore the world outside of tourist resorts. These people are happy to have clean water and something to eat every day. And the only way to carry some stuff around are gasoline cars, old and worn out. There is no electricity, no high tec mechanic, nothing around.
Just step over the border to Mexico and you can see it. Half the cars don't even have license plates driving around.

Climate change? Environment? To much money?
First world problems!

The World! will run on gasoline till all is gone, no matter if 10% of the worlds population switch over to electric or not.

 

[HVAC2]

Taking this full circle, back to OP and his repair cost. Lets dream a little.
IF, a 3/ 4 ton all electric truck with say 18k lb tow capacity was ready to buy today, 500 mile range, and lets imagine chargers are at every gas station. Charge in 10 min. With competition extended warranties are in the 250k mile range due to reliability. I would be interested!!!

Sounds like a dream? Having more computing power in your phone than Apollo moon missions did was a dream as well.
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[SnoKing]

I will wait for "water out the tail pipe" of my hydrogen powered fuel cell car!

 

[brucejohnson]

I was referring to simplicity and reliability.
Environmental impact is another subject and both sides have a viable story.
But, it is the future to go all electric. Cats out of the bag and in less than 5 years it is predicted charging stations will be at most gas stations. Most mfg are stating all electric automobile fleets within 10 years.

That will make the long lines at gas stations in 1973 look short and quick... How long does it take to charge a battery for the next 200 miles of the cross country trek?
Replaceable battery packs would be faster at the "fuel stops". The infrastructure needs would be greater than the current gas stations, with losses of product (electricity, hence produced energy) huge as transferred over great distances of the power grid.

 

[EDankievitch]

Just think how many Coal fires or Nuke power plants we are going to have to build to provide enough electricity for all these new cars an trucks

 

[JohnM45]

Just think how many Coal fires or Nuke power plants we are going to have to build to provide enough electricity for all these new cars an trucks

Can you imagine how refined nuke power could be if they'd have researched that for the last 30+ years? Instead they were looking for windy ridges and flat, sunny spots to park glass panels.

 

[HVAC2]

Well, its a factor in our grid. I'm sure higher for 2019. Drive across this country like we do and windmill farms reach out as far as you can see.

Renewable energy accounted for 12.2% of total primary energy consumption and 14.94% of the domestically produced electricity in the United States in 2016.

 

[RVTRKN]

Save on what? OK lets think like a lib, save the planet with electric cars. Cost of batteries $XXXX.XX, cost to have to recycle said batteries $XXXX.XX. Then the shortage of charging stations causing supply and demand (if the libs don't make the tax payers pay for it.) to increase your electrical rates, not just at the pumps, but at your home. No thanks, I'll be dead before I see such a state, but you young persons, you'll be wishing that back in the day when gas was cheap.