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Do you support hair follicle sampling for CDL drug testing?

  • Yes, I have nothing to hide.

  • No, they already know too much about me.


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I’m a Merchant marine I’m subject to random drug testing anytime. You don’t study you loose your license. Why should any other job that deals with people’s safety and lives be any different? I don’t want the guy or gal driving next to me drunk or stoned. And if they are operating a rig of many tons even more so.
 
Wayne, I am retired now but when I was at Cat the company use to do random drug testing. If you were found to have non-prescribed drugs and or alcohol in your system you were subject to the company polices.
My two son's are in the trades one is a pipefitter and the other a plumber, both are subject to drug testing where they work.
 
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against drug testing or safety in the slightest. But when is enough enough? Every job I’ve ever held, and I do have a CDL, I’m subject to random drug tests and even when I start new projects at times. I have nothing to hide and I’m not worried about it. My concern is strictly how much is too much? Invasion of privacy? I mean if you’re at work and you’re high, that’s a problem. But why do they need a hair follicle from anyone so they can test your system for what it has in the past? To me, that’s too far.
 
Im ok with the level of testing at present. I’m on the fence about increased testing, this is why I generated the thread. I know guys who dupe the system and that’s bad. If they get caught upside down and dirty, they should get the chair!
I know the feds want to have our full disclosure, micro chipping, big brother and on and on. I just feel hair sampling is a move in that direction.
 
True... you shouldn’t be punished for a party you did last week.... or last month. But if you don’t do it and you Study for your test you got nothing to hide...
 
OK, what is a lifestyle drug user? Fancy term for addict?

At any rate, I think it's excessive. If urine testing isn't effective enough it's either because they are doing the cheap dip tests or the actual testing isn't monitored closely enough. My company has a very strict protocol here. If you get picked, like I just did for the 3rd time this year, your superior is required to inform you and escort you to the facility. They literally walk you in and hand you off to the MRO, the MRO requires you to remove any jackets, hats etc, take off your boots and turn your pockets inside out. Then you are handed a cup and required to fill it with the Bathroom door open. They don't physically watch you go but are allowed to peek in if anything seems suspicious.
Personally I think it's borderline over reaching but I do understand the importance of keeping a tight ship so to speak.
 
True... you shouldn’t be punished for a party you did last week.... or last month. But if you don’t do it and you Study for your test you got nothing to hide...

Im on the border with this. You’re like a LEO or a Doctor. Your decisions affect others lives. If you can’t handle that, you shouldn’t have a CDL- or FAA or (nearly any) engineer paper for that matter.
If you’re off duty, social alcohol shouldn’t matter as long as you show up sober and ready to work. But I know one guy who up and quit back when they forced CDL and instituted testing on us in the mid ‘90’s because that’s not the life he wanted. In retrospect I admire that decision.
 
I served in the military 30 years and Civil Service for 11 years, the whole time subject to drug testing. I personally don't have a problem with random drug testing when your job impacts, safety, health, and/or security. I realize the concern about personal information and rights. It's very important that processing, specimen control and handling, and controlling the information gathered be beyond reproach.

In addition to all the drug testing performed on me, you wouldn't believe all the information gathered on me for my security clearance. Very Scary what's out there.

Interesting discussion.

Cheers, Ron
 
I served in the military 30 years and Civil Service for 11 years, the whole time subject to drug testing. I personally don't have a problem with random drug testing when your job impacts, safety, health, and/or security. I realize the concern about personal information and rights. It's very important that processing, specimen control and handling, and controlling the information gathered be beyond reproach.

In addition to all the drug testing performed on me, you wouldn't believe all the information gathered on me for my security clearance. Very Scary what's out there.

Interesting discussion.

Cheers, Ron
If you had Top Secret or above there requirements were just unbelievable never dawn, the unusual drug testing was even worse, they have a ton of information, the Agency was probably the worse one to deal with.:mad:
 
Every job I have ever had in my life has had random drug testing. My CDL jobs are pre-employment and random. I have no issue at all with this in any way. I have nothing to hide. My current job testing procedure is if you get pulled for a random, you go to the clinic and get it done first thing at the start of your shift.

Biggest issues I have with hair follicle testing at the present time: No standards on levels/thresholds as to what is too much. It does show a longer time back, why should you be punished for past decisions? You learn from them and move on good, bad or otherwise. The big question that hasn't been answered, at least to my knowledge: what about second-hand exposure to pot? Some of us get exposed at customer's locations in the line of duty, are we going to lose our jobs even though we did nothing wrong? No is my vote on this, I don't see any good from it in the end.
 
AHuston, excellent point. I know for a fact that NYPD does random testing, and that if you’re a narc or on some certain detail, you’re exempt a certain way. Also, if you’ve been exposed in a situation, there’s a procedure to protect yourself. Just like my job, if you’ve had dental work for example, you can ground yourself. It might involve going sick or just not driving (which I don’t do much anyway).
 
I'd rather give a quick piece of hair as a matter of convenience, rather than the occasional lock up when trying to pee for someone....I have had that happen a couple of times over the last 30 years of samples...I know it's sad :(
 
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