I just installed some 022 dv's and a set of home brewed ladders bars and i am very happy with both, when my trucks cold it idles like a gasser with a big cam and i am happy with the seat of pants meter improvment over the 191 dvs i previously was running and the ladder bars do there job no more wheel hop and the truck handles and rides a TON better should of done this right after i bought the truck. Oo.