06 - Average crank time to start

[TEX_03]

I am curious to know if what I am experencing to normal for my 2006. After a rest period 1-3 hours, till overnight, it is a 50-50 chance that it will take over 3 seconds of cranking the starter to get the beast running.



Temperature do not seem to be a factor, though I have only had the truck 2 months. It has not been in temperatures below 55 deg's.



I know my 03 took longer than my 2000, but this seems just way to long. And I do not want to be that person in the parking lot with people saying "shouldn't have bought the Dodge".



Thanks for the input,



Tex

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2006 Quad Cab 3500 Laramie, 4x4, 6-speed, white, chrome step bars, chrome bed rails

 

[KParsons]

1 second

my 06 is new in may, half to one second. to start. kp

 

[BSwope]

I have this to but it doesnt do it all the time and the longest was about 3-4 seconds maybe five before fire up, it gets on my nerves when it dose it! I think there is a reflash that can be done, im sure some of the fellas on here can give ya some more info to help ya!

 

[SEwing]

about 1 second, sometimes 3-5

 

[Troll]

Mine does it too, it is very annoying. I think it is only a 6 speed problem. I wonder what there is about the manuals that causes this. I have read that the flash does nothing to help.

 

[Doughboy21kd]

I had the reflash done on mine and it didn't do anything... . Most of the time it fires right away after bumping the starter..... But maybe once a month at least if not twice it will do it..... I have had it turn over for like 5 to 8 seconds and not start at all but then i just let off the ignition and bump the key again and fires right off.....



I'm telling ya its tempermental... . makes me

 

[SEwing]

mine hasn't done it since I installed the non dual mass flywheel that came with the SBC con ofe, but its only been a week

 

[TowPro]

I think I found a way to duplicate it. With the high idle turned on to around 1200 rpm, turn off the truck. when you go to restart it it will cran for 15 or more seconds.

 

[Prairie Dog]

This has been discussed many times and its normal.

The way it was explained to me is that the ECM must get valid info from all of the sensors before start is allowed. So, depending on what position it stops in, it may have to spin more to get by a sensor for cam, crank, etc.

 

[rattlbox]

mine does it also. it is really freakin annoying. #@$%! i noticed the other day with a half a tank of fuel it cranked for like 20 sec or so before it started. kind of reminded me of a furd :-laf

 

[flyairam]

Tex,



My '06 will start immediately if it's done right. I've noticed that if I insert the key and crank right away it will take longer.



Try this: insert the key, turn it to "on", let the lift pump pressurize the lines, the key get recognized by the ECM, then crank. It'll start immediately (I promise).

 

[RockinJ]

Mine's a 2005 six-speed, I'm experiencing the identical symptoms as described by Doughboy21kd. Dealer keeps saying "cannot duplicate" and knows of no "fix". This is frustrating, especially after having a 2001 which ALWAYS started on the first lick.

 

[ENafziger]

My '06 manual trans does it too. Sometimes I've wondered if the truck was even going to start... kindof embarassing when someone is admiring the new truck, and then you go to take off and can't even get it to start! Oh well, keeps you humble I guess...



Like was posted earlier, I've found that if you turn the key on and wait about 3-5 seconds (there's a small red light on my dash that will stay on for this time and then go out), the truck will USUALLY start right up. However, sometimes it is still stubborn. If it doesn't start within a second or two, turn the key off and try starting again immediately without any waiting. This has always worked for me.

 

[CStraface]

Mine was doinging it when I had the TST on. It would take about 3-5 seconds to turn over. The minute I pulled the TST, problem solved.

 

[BGlidewell]

I have remote start on my truck so I rarely turn it on with a key. When car toys first installed the remote start, they tapped into the CPS and subsequently burned it up so the truck had a code. Once the dealer replaced the CPS, the Remote start installer corrected the problem by using the tach signal which was the prefered way to do it. This fixed two problems with the remote start. It stopped the truck from dieing when remote started after 15 seconds and the AC was on MAX-High, plus it elimiminated the need to set a crank time on the remote start which was sometimes longer than others. Remote start on a diesel is a pain.



Do you have a code in the computer, or you have a box on the truck?

 

[MikePalmer]

I believe it has something to do with the tank fuel pump. I find that if I turn the key on for a couple of second before I crake it starts fast. If I don't, it tends to take longer.

 

[Glock Guru]

I turn mine to the on setting, wait 2-3 seconds and crank. Fires right up.



-Troy

 

[TEX_03]

The operator error factor does contribute. I noticed after reading the replies that my habit is to jump into the truck, throw the key in and crank away. Breaking myself of this habit has helped. Now I only have the long cranks about 1 out of 10 times.



Thanks everybody for the input. Hopefully she doesn't wait for the long cranks when I have an audience.



Tex

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2006 Quad Cab 3500 Laramie, 4x4, 6-speed, white, chrome step bars, chrome bed rails

 

[TowPro]

But don't the fuel lift pump wait until you turn the key to "crank" before it starts pumping? just like it did on the 2gen?

 

[kenfish]

I am curious to know if what I am experencing to normal for my 2006. After a rest period 1-3 hours, till overnight, it is a 50-50 chance that it will take over 3 seconds of cranking the starter to get the beast running.



Temperature do not seem to be a factor, though I have only had the truck 2 months. It has not been in temperatures below 55 deg's.



I know my 03 took longer than my 2000, but this seems just way to long. And I do not want to be that person in the parking lot with people saying "shouldn't have bought the Dodge".



Thanks for the input,



Tex

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2006 Quad Cab 3500 Laramie, 4x4, 6-speed, white, chrome step bars, chrome bed rails

MY 2005 with the 6 spd transmission does the same thing, the dealer is aware of the problem and say's Dodge is working on new program for the pcm. They say problem is that the dual mass fly wheel is sending false crank info to the pcm. I'm getting frustrated on the time it's taking them to get software fix. Lets start to hamer cust service !! Before our starters wear out