'06 Vibration, This is crazy

[EC4145]

Have about 3600 miles on my '06 QC CTD 2500 G56 SLT and have been pleasantly surprised at how well (smooth) it rides for a 3/4 ton... until now! I was out of town yesterday and hit some of the roughest railroad tracks I have ever seen and ever since I have a BAD vibration/hop that seems like is worse in the rear. This is crazy. How could RR tracks do that? They were rough as h@%!!. and I was in a hurry and hit them at about 45mph, felt like the truck was going shake apart, I feel sure the rear tires caught some air. But still! What the heck? I checked and I don't see where any weights fell off anywhere. I feel stupid asking if a (alum) wheel could be warped, but what else could it be?

 

[DPKetchum]

Just got a EARFUL from a buddy who JUST bought a 06 2500 4x4 auto. Was SMOOTH to start with and now at 2800 MILES not RPM. OOPS (My typo) developed a noise vibration on the hiway from rear he said it is awful. Kinda did it,went away THEN came back and won't go away. Dealer did a quick shaft swap with no improvement.

 

[kowaliga]

How fast ( M. P. H. ) is an auto at 2800 r. p. m. ? If the glass is down at speed, wind noise alone makes me imagine something is shaking loose. Roll 'em up and ( to borrow from 'The Sopranos' ) 'its as quiet as a mouse p*ssin' on cotton'. A very smooth driving surface, windows up and listening from different ear orientations is a tactic that yields interesting and revealing results. Hope the vibe source is just your imagination.

 

[steved]

First, are we talking a driveline vibration "speed" or a tire vibration "speed"... sounds like you broke a belt in a tire...



steved

 

[betterthanstock]

Have about 3600 miles on my '06 QC CTD 2500 G56 SLT and have been pleasantly surprised at how well (smooth) it rides for a 3/4 ton... until now! I was out of town yesterday and hit some of the roughest railroad tracks I have ever seen and ever since I have a BAD vibration/hop that seems like is worse in the rear. This is crazy. How could RR tracks do that? They were rough as h@%!!. and I was in a hurry and hit them at about 45mph, felt like the truck was going shake apart, I feel sure the rear tires caught some air. But still! What the heck? I checked and I don't see where any weights fell off anywhere. I feel stupid asking if a (alum) wheel could be warped, but what else could it be?

Jack up each wheel just enough to spin it by hand and check the roundness of the tires, and side wobble. Check your ball joints too. Who knows, if you hit em too hard, maybe they work loose and start to shimmy.

 

[DPKetchum]

OPPS my fault not 2800 RPM but at 2800 MILES it just started. My friends is the VERY SAME noise and vibration as EC4145!!! His tires have been checked on a road force balancer. Shafts swapped from another new truck. This is the THIRD one I've read about. My friends was SMOOTH and QUIET. Then he had a brief episode of noise and vibration THEN a day or two later came on and has stayed. It ALSO feels and sounds like all from the rear. He knows it needs to go and stay for a few days at the dealer. They tried a few quick items while he WAITED. The service manager said its like REALLY there and doing it and a issue!

 

[silverram03]

See this thread!

http://www.tdr1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158713



In other words Dodge does not have a solution to the vibration/noise problem.

 

[mlewis73]

See this thread!

http://www.tdr1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158713



In other words Dodge does not have a solution to the vibration/noise problem.

Gee, these are Dodge's trucks... What's up with that!?



I hope they find the cause--hope my '06 doesn't do it...

 

[MCrossley]

Funny that is what my buddy said when his new ford lost its engine at 1500 or so miles... .

Gee, these are Dodge's trucks... What's up with that!?



I hope they find the cause--hope my '06 doesn't do it...

 

[olznut]

I've been having vibes since new, thought it was in motor, but just got back from a 800 mile drive, the vibe is in the driveline for sure. Truck was singing along very nicely (avg 19. 3 mpg by hand). Starts about 50mph and up. 75 you feel a kind of vibe that I can only describe as coming from the rear and moving forward. Also, I hear a sound that sounds like someone holding a screwdriver on a spinning hollow metal tube (there ain't nothin' hitting the shaft) but it happens once in awhile, and that can be heard from the back seat area. Gonna take it in tomorrow to see what the dealer says.

 

[DPKetchum]

Same deal as my buddys. His was FINE for 2000 miles and it started it only once in while over a few days then BINGO. Now its constant. His dealer only had his a few hours but was like WHAT! Thats why they swapped shafts and then did a tire wheel inspection with a road force balance to no avail.

 

[steved]

I still think you guys are reading to far into the original post... he hit a severe pothole, now the truck "hops"... that is why I asked if it was a tire speed vibe or a driveline speed vibe... a "hop" would indicate a broken belt in a tire.



steved

 

[DPKetchum]

I understand. But I bet not. Description is the same. EHALTERMANS is the very same deal also. Including the noise.

 

[steved]

I understand. But I bet not. Description is the same. EHALTERMANS is the very same deal also. Including the noise.

We don't really have enough information to make that assumption... or even that it is a tire...



And I see no mention of a noise, just a vibration/hop in the rear end... he even asked if he could have bent a wheel... I'm leaning towards bad tire... that's my final answer...



steved

 

[DPKetchum]

$50. 00 bet its not. Bet there are OTHERS out there doing same deal. Service Manager read this yesterday and said DAMN. Same deal! My buddies they AFTER a road force balance DID try a tire swap with 0 results also. He was HANGING on the phone trying to TALK to STAR instead of the E/mail thing. My buddy's if not fixed will hand it back. He's HOT on this issue. All his driving is hiway. Said can't and won't drive it like this. WAS SMOOTH. In the space of a few days this occured.

 

[steved]

$50. 00 bet its not. Bet there are OTHERS out there doing same deal. Service Manager read this yesterday and said DAMN. Same deal! My buddies they AFTER a road force balance DID try a tire swap with 0 results also. He was HANGING on the phone trying to TALK to STAR instead of the E/mail thing. My buddy's if not fixed will hand it back. He's HOT on this issue. All his driving is hiway. Said can't and won't drive it like this. WAS SMOOTH. In the space of a few days this occured.

I'm not arguing that your buddy's truck isn't having the problem (or that others who posted in this thread aren't having the same issue as he is), just that it doesn't sound like it is the same thing as the problem in this thread... what he described sounds like a broken belt in a tire to me... there is a difference between a vibration and a "hop" as he describes... hopefully he will chime in here and give us more detail...



steved

 

[keimmmo]

Steved,



I'm with you. I have personally damaged tires on rough railroad crossings. Besides, you ALWAYS eliminate the simple and obvious before you start chasing ghosts!!! First step is to check for damage caused by the impact of the rough RR crossing!



Now, if that does not find the problem, then maybe it IS the mystery vibration like some others have. If it is, maybe the impact has something to do with it starting. Others with the vibration... did it start after an impact or maybe a drive on a really rough road? This might be a clue.



Steve Keim

 

[kowaliga]

Quoting. . 'a bad vibration/hop that seems like its worse in the rear' leaves much to a diagnoser's imagination. Is vibration equivalent to hop? Hop would imply lurch or bounce. . tire/wheel induced maybe. If the drive-line caused a hop it would most probably self-destruct. A bent rim, dislodged balance weight or tire damage would evidence itself at many speeds ( we don't know if the vibe is speed related do we ?) while the infamous 'vibe' is reportedly speed related. What if a muffler hanger or two came loose, or a shock is blown? Is it a seat-of-the-pants or steering wheel shake? I think a distinction should be made between vibration and hop. . remember some have cured their 'vibe' with a spray-in bedliner ( not suggesting as a solution here ). This is an interesting thread and I empathize with the owner.

 

[DPKetchum]

I agree with the simple. Its always the first rule. I imho don't think so in this case. I also don't think its the same vibe as 05 and below. It seems like a new/differant issue. Time will tell and YES there needs to more info from the orignal poster.

 

[wcjp]

Are these happening on 4x4 trucks? I'm curious if the oddball 06' grease fitting in the front driveshaft is contributing to the problem. Have they tried removing the rear driveshaft and temporarily driving on the front to see if problem goes away?



The Ford Explorers had a vibration. Turned out the C clip was the wrong size. Some of the Grand Cherokee's had vibration due to the hybrid aluminum D44. I think the GC was solved by replacement.