# 10 plate, or #11 plate?

[The patriot]

I dont know which cam plate I should get.

Would I need to replace my cluch immediately, or could it wait?

I dont beat on my truck, so I'm assuming it's fairly healthy.

I would like to get it timed, and the 3K GSK eventually.

I tow very little, but I guess it has to be taken into consideration.

Help me decide.

TIA

Eric

 

[C Schomer]

The 11 is GREAT and safe. You'll also love the 3k kit. Might as well get the afc spring kit while you're at it - better and smoother smoke control. Do the Piers rocker adjustment!Craig

Just saw , you have 370s. My clutch is doing fine, but you'll probably smoke yours!

 

[radixr]

Which plate?

Eric,



I have the #11 plate with 370's and I dynoed at MM at 366. 5 HP. Your clutch will be smoked with either plate. Mark Chapple told me that the #10 plate would smoke like a freight train with the 370's.

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

The 11 will push the egts to the limit and work the clutch to near its limit too. Consider saving for a 16 cm2 turbine housing for egt's and a better clutch. The 10 pushes way past the limits, but a 16 usually keeps egt's more or less in check. Yep it can smoke, that is what you need more air system work for! Actually you can cut the smoke down a lot with afc adjustments.

 

[drawson]

Eric,

To save your clutch the only plate that you could run at first would be the #12. I already had the #11 plate and when I added the 370s and the 16CM2 housing it slipped the clutch I had at the time(Luk Pro Gold). I would do the GSK first then after the clutch was healthy then I'd go for the #11 and the 16 CM2.



Dude I feel for you (kind a ) The bombing bug had gotten hold of you:--)

 

[Pthomas]

do it right the first time!

you know your gonna want more .....

dont waste your time and money

i recomend you save up some$ and buy the real deal!

you would actually save money and time in the long run!

my sig shows as much as i could afford in parts

I did my own install and tune.

 

[JGK]

Eric,



Your truck and mine are very similiar in set-up (same year and config. ). I have a #11 equivalent. Your driving style and use sound very similar to mine.



I started with the plate in stock position, AFC spring and boost elbow, and improved air filter in the fall of 2000. Last fall I added 4 inch exhaust, the 370s, and the BHAF. Killed my clutch in late December. I'd recommend the #11. But you'd better be prepared to do the clutch soon!



-Jay

 

[Rams-n-Hogs]

Eric,



I installed the #11 in my 96 last weekend. Truck has 93000 miles, some towing, etc. Light foot, no clutch slippage. Heavier foot, well, the clutch isn't gonna last long. But I like that plate!!!



Jim

 

[The patriot]

Thanks for all the info guys.

One more question, how does the power curve for the two plates compare?

I'd like some more low end grunt.

Oh... . and the smoke would be fine... .

Eric

 

[Pthomas]

#10's got the grunt!

Eric,

I use the #10 with a 4K gov. spring kit and 370's and let me say its a "grunt" youll never forget. i also tow 10k lbs on the weekends and have no egt problems, i just use my foot wisely and can criuse up ANY hill over 65mph below 1100 deg'.

dont skimp on any parts you buy to save a buck or two. just plan ahead. I suggest you call piers or joe. They will confirm the 10 plate is a nice cut!

almost forgot did you do the clutch yet?

thats a big no no to skimp on. .

 

[The patriot]

No I havent done the cluch yet. I'm hoping Piers has a sale on them at a better time than last time. I had just spent a bunch of $$$ on "toys" when they went on sale.

Eric

 

[The patriot]

BTT

One last call on this question..... does anyone have a torque/HP chart comparing the two plates?

I do plan on the GSK (in addition to the cluch), not sure of 3K or 4K yet. I got to wait to see what goes on sale!

Eric

 

[gitchesum]

If ya wanna wait a month I can tell ya what a #10 plate with 370's and a 3K GSK puts out on a DynoJet.



I can tell you that it wiped up a 89 Mustang GT convertible Sunday afternoon.

 

[The patriot]

Curtis, I'd really appreciate that!!

Eric

 

[JGK]

And if you can wait until after about June 15th, I can tell you what a #11 equivalent (Bully Dog), 370s, 3K GSK, plus misc. will do on a Mustang dyno. See my sig. for other goodies that may have an influence.



BTW: Last year, my plate with AFC spring kit and boost elbow, tuned and timed pump, and only an Amsoil foam filter (stock exhaust, turbo, injectors, governor, etc. ) dyno'd 247 at the rear wheels on the same Mustang dyno.



-Jay

 

[radixr]

Dynojet results

#11 TST plate, 370 injectors, AFC spring kit, 4K gov. springs, stock turbo --- 366. 5 HP. Oh, yeah, one more thing: chrome valve covers!

 

[The patriot]

Jay, feel free to post the numbers, but I think Curtis's setup will be closer to what I will end up doing. You have too much $$$ there.

radixr, thanks for the numbers.

Eric

 

[GSchlegel]

I sure like the #10 plate! See sig. for my setup and results of a dyno run on winter fuel.



Gene

 

[JJW_ND]

Gene:



How do your EGTs get with your setup?



16 cm housing help much?



jjw

 

[GSchlegel]

JJW-ND,



Running hard through the gears empty, the SPA usually records a peak just over 1300*. Last weekend I was pulling a boxy 5-6,000# trailer and decided to race... er... accelerate in 5th from 60 to 80-85 (I beat the 4 wheeler) and EGT peaked a bit over 1500*.



The 16cm helped, I'd guess 100* - 150*. It's hard to know for sure, too many other variables. Do have more lag off the line, but I don't drag race - just try to shut them down on the roll.



I'd like to get a different turbo to help with temps. and lag so I can add 370s but need income coming in first. BTW - got two interviews tomorrow and Friday. Say some prayers for me - wish me luck.



Gene