$1000 truck

[JIM S.]

I posted yesterday (i think) about a 1 gen truck that my brother and I were thinking about buying... well it turns out that it is a 93 D250 intercooled 4x4 with a NV 4500 in it. It needs some work(mainly a tail shaft housing. . we found a place to get one too) and it could stand a set of injectors... but we got it for the measly sum of $1000 ... got diesel . . Jim

 

[J DeMaio]

That's a deal! What options does it have? What is the body like and how many miles are on it? What modifications will be done do it in the future? Keep us up to date on how it turns out.



Later



John

 

[KEENO]

Hey Jim!



Congratulations on a major score! Great to have you over in the First Generation forum as well...



Just for reference... . If your truck is a 4X4 it is designated as the "W" series (4X4) and "D" series for the "2 wheel drive" model. Might save some confusion during your tailshaft hunt...



Just a little trivia...



KEENO

 

[JIM S.]

thanks for the tip... I think I remember reading that in the past ... but forgot. . or something..... anyway I have another question... I took the 160 HP injectors out of my 95 and replaced them with 215s... could I put the 160's in the 93 temporarly... cause the ones in it are really bad... ??? . . Jim

 

[JIM S.]

Ok I have been thinking this over all afternoon... . this truck starts up first crank no problem ... but it idles real rough and when throtle is given it does not rev up, if you floor it a hold it will finaly rev up and mostly smooth out. . and it puts out whiteish smoke... I was thinking the injectors were at fault... but I am thinking the pump is timed wrong... . any ideas on this??? Jim

 

[Nordby]

Replace the fuel filter.



Then low pressure bleed or measure pressure from the lift pump.



Then Test the injectors.



If it idles rough, crack the high pressure line to each cylinder. When you crack the line and fuel starts spewing, the idle should change because the cylinder would not longer fire (it should get rougher). On those cylinders that the idle does not change, have someone snap-test and clean out the corresponding injector(s) at the local injection shop.



Whiteish smoke, in my rig, was always an injector problem, or an air problem. So check for air in return lines, line from the lift pump to the injection pump (there is a fitting hiding under the intake heater structure there), do a low pressure bleed, and when you crack the injectors (high pressure bleed is a side-affect of this) make sure that all fuel bubbling stops and clear fuel is running before tightening the high-pressure line back down.



If an injector never bleeds out and continuously runs foamy, it's because it cannot reseat after firing due to debris stuck in it - often pieces of your injection pump coming apart.



Timing will help too, but I'd start with the above first!



good luck, jon

 

[84 crewcab]

Another Score

I too scored a diesel truck for small coin last week. It is a '91 W250 (title says D250), Getrag 5 spd, 3. 5 Spicer 70, flat bed dually box. It has 147,000 miles and cost $850. It has nearly new tires that are the same size as my crew cab. I already have the bed sold for $300, and another guy is interested in the salvage. I could get into the engine for under $300.



I already have the NV 4500 5 spd and the hydraulic clutch assembly for it. The bell housing should be here on Wednesday. I plan to stuff the engine into my '84 long box crewcab dually, King Can. It is red and white and looks like a very large Budwieser King Can.

 

[Power Wagon]

Where in the blazes do you find these deals??????



I've wanted a truck for years. Don't mind if I gotta do some work to it. But, 1000 bucks or less???



Let me in on the secret!!!

 

[JIM S.]

no secret

Hey power wagon... . there is no secret. . just dumb luck in my case... . this truck used to be the local portable toilet pumper and I work construction so when they came around every week I saw the truck then I noticed that they were not useing the dodge any more, so I finaly got around to asking and sure enough. . they were wanting to sell it. . so just keep your eyes open Jim

 

[Power Wagon]

Originally posted by JIM S.

Ok I have been thinking this over all afternoon... . this truck starts up first crank no problem ... but it idles real rough and when throtle is given it does not rev up, if you floor it a hold it will finaly rev up and mostly smooth out. . and it puts out whiteish smoke... I was thinking the injectors were at fault... but I am thinking the pump is timed wrong... . any ideas on this??? Jim

Every time I've seen this, it has been bad injectors. Normally, there's no way for the 1st gen engine to "slip" out of time, so that's probably not it.



In fact, I have seen an truck with a set of injectors direct from Mopar (rebuilds) that ran just like that. It fogged the driveway so bad, you couldn't see behind it a few seconds after starting. There was no visible problem with the injectors, but replacing them fixed the problem entirely.



BTW, the dealer was going to have the head rebuilt on a 120K engine. We put in injectors and they shipped the set we took out back to Mopar Parts (they had Cummins ReCon markings on them) and the customer left grinning ear to ear with PW injectors in it