Competition 12sec 24V engine

[zaccopelle]

I wonder if You guys have any tip to give Me when it comes to build a 12sec truck out of my 2004 2500 automatic heavy duty 4wd truck?



Here in sweden this kind of truck is very rare so the knowledge regarding these engines is almost down to zero.



Anyway, my first question is how much power and torqe do I need to perform a 12sec result?



Second question, Do I need to make any mods to the engine/cyl head? or is it enough changing turbo, intercooler, ecu etc?



Third question, What kind of mods could you recomend? brand? etc... .



I have been looking at Banks diffrent kits and was planing to buy a 5" exhaust system, bigger intercooler, ecu etc...



Many thank's in advance!



Regards,Pelle in Sweden

 

[mattymac]

Transmission is #1, dont skimp here go all out the first time with billet internals and be done with it. Suncoast, DTT, ATS, NADP.



Fueling will be controversial here but I would say a TST box, Smarty programmer, injectors, and a built up CP3 pump with a good lift/supply pump.



Air is intake and exhaust, you can put a big single or twins on it, there are a bunch of diffrent options here with turbos.



Head studs should be sufficent for keeping the head down on the block.



Depending on your weight you should need around 600 HP give or take to put you into the 12's.

 

[zaccopelle]

When you say billet internals You mean the torque converter?



I have been told to change the lift pump just as You say but what is the CP3 pump, is it the main pump? (dummies level :-laf ) In what way do you mod it?



Which maximum hp can the original turbo perform?

 

[csutton7]

Var i Sverige ar du??



no he means the shafts inside the transmission and other parts---a full upgraded transmission would be the easiest--but shipping may be "for mycket" so parts may be the best way to go if you have good transmission knowledge or a good shop that could call whoever you buy the parts from to get advice if needed---you will need a torque convertor also---



men du maste tanker om pris om du vill ha BANKS, du kan gor battre om priset med annan firmer och battre hastikrafter ochsa---forlat om spelning o grammatik---



as stated by mattymac definitely start with the transmission upgrade then get a fuel pressure guage and EGT guage(exhaust temperature) as a minimum---then either a box or injectors or both---see what happens--then upgrade the turbo and exhaust---head studs as stated would be smart also----just be smart on purchases you don't want to end up buying a set of injectors that are too small and then have to buy another set---also you may want to keep the stock injectors for "besiktning" so you'll be paying a little more on injectors due to the core charge----



transmission

guages

head studs

lift pump(not the in-tank one)

injectors

cp3

box or boxes

turbo or turbos & exhaust

innercooler



above is the order I'd go---lycka til... chris

 

[zaccopelle]

Thank's for your post Chris!



Do you know wich firm/firms to contact when it comes to parts for the transmission mod and the converter swap?



Do you know what the maximum hp with the original turbo is?

Here in Sweden it's quite easy to get hold of a Holset HX 40 or bigger, 50, 52, 55 etc as they are originaly mounted on several volvo trucks. Maybe the HX40 could fit my spec for 600hp?



When I swap the head studs, do I change to a diffrent gasket also?



Wich size would you recomend for the injectors? brand?



Seams like you either has a Swedish wife or You have been to sweden for some time! :-laf



I live in Vanersborg, 100km north of Gothenburg.



Quite a monster cummins truck You have Chris, impressive HP! Have You ever done a 1/4mile with it?

 

[Diesel Power]

just take a look at my sig---12's on a bad day :-laf

 

[csutton7]

zaccopelle--kolla din PM's senare---



min fru ar fran Filipstad och jag bodde dar i 1985 o 1986--vi gifta oss i 1988 i Filipstad--jag tro vi har en van i Filipstad som ar fran Vanersborg--nastan sakert, men jag maste fraga min fru ... . och vi har kort genom Vanersborg nar vi var pa vag til Goteborg en eller tva ganger o jag tro vi etta lunch dar ochsa---vi hors... . chris

 

[PRout]

Calling the forum police. . Someone please ban Chris's wife from this thread. :-laf In the past it has worked out better when I could understand what he was posting (have been learning better that way)

 

[csutton7]

shortshift--now that's funny----no diesel info in my above post--just info on how I can mangle the swedish language into Redneck swedish---chris

 

[Tcolesanti]

Holy crap, Redneck Swedish, Im' a turn der truk up ana maka der smoke ana maka der power-U-BET!!!! :-laf :-laf :-laf







I could barely understand Chris's redneck posting before, I could only imagine what this guy is thinking to himself... ... ... :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[Diesel Nut]

Holy crap, Redneck Swedish, Im' a turn der truk up ana maka der smoke ana maka der power-U-BET!!!! :-laf :-laf :-laf







I could barely understand Chris's redneck posting before, I could only imagine what this guy is thinking to himself... ... ... :-laf :-laf :-laf

Now thats just funny! :-laf



As for teh 12's, well, pretty much whats posted. I run



BD Twin Turbos

TST Powermax CR

Superchips Flashpaq

100hp injectors

200 gph FASS pump

Suncoast Transmission

5 inch Stacks





Good for a 12. 58 @107. 9 (darned speed limiter)

 

[kbond]

speed limiter?

Now thats just funny! :-laf



As for teh 12's, well, pretty much whats posted. I run



BD Twin Turbos

TST Powermax CR

Superchips Flashpaq

100hp injectors

200 gph FASS pump

Suncoast Transmission

5 inch Stacks





Good for a 12. 58 @107. 9 (darned speed limiter)

not to thread highjack but I thought the TST removed the speed limiter? Is there not another way to remove that? This is on the 06's. thanks,Ken

 

[Diesel Nut]

No. The Superchips is supposed to and isn't. i am working with Superchips to resolve this problem.



The TST just controls the injectors and provides boost fooling.