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I have a friend who has a 1902 Oldsmobile replica car whom I am helping to get going again. It is (I think) 3/4 scale, made of wood and is (was) powered by a 6 HP Craftsman small engine. The exhaust valve is burnt and we decided to just install a new engine instead of dinking with it. The car has an electric start- the details of which and questions are further down.

We were thinking of just installing a self- contained new small engine in the HP range complete with alternator and starter. The problem with this option is that we are limited in the choices of self contained engines and the ones looked at do not physically fit in the allotted space. We are thinking of going back to the original setup of which engine choices are practically endless.

Here’s the crook that I hope someone can assist: The existing starter and charger are one in the same. It is an old Delco generator (motor) that acts as a starter then when running it acts as the generator. When starting, the full current goes through a floor pedal starting switch (similar to the old headlight dimmer switches of older cars) to the generator to turn it over. Once started, somehow the current then reverses to come from the generator (starter) to maintain the battery. The part that is confusing is that the “battery to starter” circuit goes through the starter switch as described, and then the “generator to battery” circuit must deliver current back to the battery but not through the starting switch circuit. It as if there are 2 “systems” but only one (sort of) circuit? HMmmm?

Is any one out there familiar with this type of setup that I might be able top communicate further as to the proper wiring of this deal? The vehicle has been sitting in a garage for the past 25 or so years and there was not much left of the wiring system to document. The car will be delivered to my garage this weekend and I will be able to provide more info at that time.
 
fkovalski, interesting project to say the least :)



A diode in parallel with your starter switch should make the circuit work then it would use the same wiring. With the Anode in the direction of the battery on the + circuit would allow current to run from the starter/alternator unit but not let run the other way and discharge the battery when it's not running. So you would run 1 wire from the batt + to starter switch then to starter/alternator, 2nd wire from batt + to diode to starter/alt.



When you step on the starter it closes the switch in parallel and basically takes it out of the equation so current runs from the battery to the starter/alternator and starts it.



I haven't ever seen a setup like this but I'm just speculating, it seems like it would be pretty easy to set up and might add a capacitor to smooth things out.



Vaughn
 
I have seen something similar. It is on an old(1970's) Cub Cadet lawn tractor. It uses the same principle. I could pull up a wiring diagram off of the manual I have if you would like,
 
Thank you for the replies. I am anxious to get the car this weekend and will be able to dissect what is left of the original wiring.

TStetson- I might take you up on your offer if you can locate a Cub wiring diagram. Let me further see what is going on when I get it. Thanks!
 
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