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Wingate werent the old 8v92s 2 stroke along with the 671s sounded like there was a giant blender under the hood, RPMs were off the chart along with oil leaks.
 
Wingate werent the old 8v92s 2 stroke along with the 671s sounded like there was a giant blender under the hood, RPMs were off the chart along with oil leaks.



The 53 series Detroit Diesels had a Goverened RPM of 2800, the 71 and 92 series were goverened at 2200 RPM. The 53 and 71 had dry sleeves (air around the cylenders) which made them vary noisey. The 92's had wet sleeves which helped them with the noise but not a lot. They sounded like they were turning a lot more RPM's then they were because they fired every stroke.
 
Wingate werent the old 8v92s 2 stroke along with the 671s sounded like there was a giant blender under the hood, RPMs were off the chart along with oil leaks.



pretty much... .



I watched one that was freshly rebuilt get fired for the first time... . it ran for about 1-2 minutes and took off to the moon... . The guy running it pulled the O/S handle and took off running. (little blower flap type ASO) It slowed down for a couple seconds, then came the smoke, and back off to the races it went. . I pulled the fuel line off but it was too late, she was running on oil being supplied by the blower seals (i guess). . We sat there laughing and taking bets on how long it would last before it windowed the block... I gotta say, it lasted longer than I thought it would have... made it almost a solid 60 seconds...

They DO have an unmistakeable sound when they are on a work-over rig pulling pipe... .
 
knew a guy that swore by them had a road truck with an 8v92 pumped up and it did run strong. He had a giant picture made to hang over his sofa at home. I told him that his wife was going to kill him for his truck leaking oil on the sofa. If they dont leak they are not running right
 
I had the gross misfortune of co-driving a 8 V 71 powered Kenworth cabover from Wisconsin to Georgia and back years ago. I still have the urge to vomit violently every time I hear one of those leaky, vibrating, shaking POS engines run.
 
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knew a guy that swore by them had a road truck with an 8v92 pumped up and it did run strong. He had a giant picture made to hang over his sofa at home. I told him that his wife was going to kill him for his truck leaking oil on the sofa. If they dont leak they are not running right



They came out with the Silver 92. The silver paint was to help slow the oil leaks. :-laf



I agree with Gonzo... a real General Motors POS! It lived too far past its 1930s technology.



Bill
 
They came out with the Silver 92. The silver paint was to help slow the oil leaks. :-laf



I agree with Gonzo... a real General Motors POS! It lived too far past its 1930s technology.



Bill



I know in the mid 80's that they were slipping but I think some of that was a result of sloppy tolerances and poor engineering at the manufacturing level.



The basic premise of a 2 cycle Detroit Diesel is still sound.

They would start and run under the most extreme conditions, look at what was built in this country using that family of engine.



The fuel system was dirt simple and forgiving of contaminates, the Series 60 (1,000,000 strong and still counting) uses the same basic system only with electronic controls to fire it rather than a mechanical governor and fuel rack.



They were cheap to repair and if you know what you were doing when you set them up they would not run away.



We always had a minimum of three people available if starting a new rebuild, one to start it, one with a big jacket to stuff in the air cleaner and one to take the fuel filters off just in case something went wrong. That spring loaded emergency door will not stop them if they take off quickly.



They would take off if an injector stuck open on the pre-spring loaded rack days, after that upgrade it quit happening.



If an injector stuck while driving it you could control it with the transmission and brakes to get it to a safe stalling point.



Run aways are not exclusive to 2 stroke engines either, I have see 3406 Cats run away on two separate occasions over the years and you had better step back because nothing can be done. One of them turned the stacks blue on a Pete tractor and spoiled the Fuller transmission behind it because the input shaft was spinning so fast. I figured that 15" Spicer double disc clutch would come out through the bell housing but it didn't.



Mike. :)
 
I had the gross misfortune of co-driving a 8 V 71 powered Kenworth cabover from Wisconsin to Georgia and back years ago. I still have the urge to vomit violently every time I hear one of those leaky, vibrating, shaking POS engines run.



NO! My 73 Cornbinder with the 8v71 and 10 speed was awesome! It gulped oil and fuel and ran like a champ. Loved turning it off by pulling the handle. Sounded great in 7th and 8th when mashing the gas and the blower sounded like a jet engine. Typical oil addition was a gallon of Delo every other week. The only time it leaked oil was when the oil filter vibrated loose cause the nut wasn't tightened properly. I drove that truck coast to coast several times.



Then I graduated to a 290 Cummins and all was forgotten.



Ken
 
personally i love those engines and have a few projects in mind for a couple 3. the oil leaks are not hard to solve permanetly the problem was the machining was not done right and you had to tear the whole thing down machine all sealing surfaces and then you wouldnt have any problems. i knew a guy that rebuilt several of them this way and they never used oil again. great engines in my mind just not fuel effiecent.
 
personally i love those engines and have a few projects in mind for a couple 3. the oil leaks are not hard to solve permanently the problem was the machining was not done right and you had to tear the whole thing down machine all sealing surfaces and then you wouldn't have any problems. i knew a guy that rebuilt several of them this way and they never used oil again. great engines in my mind just not fuel effiecent.



HHMMM IMHO they are not Fuel efficient, Quiet, or do they have torque characteristics that are easy to live with.
 
Have any of yall heard of these folks? I got nine of their diesel (multi fuel) engines and sold five of them. UNIQUE little 2 stroke, high revving critter! I will try to figure out how to post a photo of the one I have. It is the 215cc.



Got any pics yet? What are you using these for? I am very interested in the possibilities a multi-fuel engine in these sizes.
 
A neighbor which had several large farms had a 8v92 in a massey that was straight piped. You could walk out of the bank down town and hear him working four miles away. Many nights the conversation over the cooler would stop when he hit a hard spot. Of course as soon as he was through it we picked right back up. One of those home town things I guess.



Here's a good ol Detroit

International Detroit Diesel 12v71TT sled pull wheelie - YouTube
 
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