Well, according to this site, it will be possible to order a 2005 as of 6/14/04, with production starting 7/12/04. Now I'm about 2 seconds from ordering a new 04. 5, but this has me thinking that it might not be a bad idea to wait for June to order. Has anyone out there monitored these date estimates in the past and deemed them to be fairly accurate? It sure would be torture to wait until after 04. 5 production ends, expecting to order in June and then getting stuck having to wait until October or something... and the final date to order a 2004. 5 is only 2 weeks away!! (4/16/04 according to that site!)