2007 models

[WMcGuire]

A Dodge salesman stated today that the 2007 model trucks will be virtually the same as the 2006 models until after the first of the year when the new fuel is introduced everywhere, the 6. 7 Cummins wont be available in the 2500-3500 models EVER, and will only be installed in the larger trucks!

Anybody here have the straight scoop on this?

 

[KCJackson]

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165926

 

[betterthanstock]

Want something official? Click below and scroll to #7.

that TSB states that only the 6. 7 will comply with the 07 regulations, and therefore REQUIRES ULSD, whereas the 5. 9 requires LSD, but it is OK on ULSD.

(i. e. There will be no 5. 9 emissions compliant to the 07 standard. )



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157412

 

[CPavlic]

Just another example of how salesmen dont know the difference between thier a@@ and a hole in the ground :-laf

 

[Augie]

A Dodge salesman stated today that the 2007 model trucks will be virtually the same as the 2006 models until after the first of the year when the new fuel is introduced everywhere, the 6. 7 Cummins wont be available in the 2500-3500 models EVER, and will only be installed in the larger trucks!

Anybody here have the straight scoop on this?

2007 Dodge Ram Heavy Duty: All-new 6. 7-liter Cummins Turbo Diesel Cranks Out 650 lb. -ft of Prodigious Torque.



2007 Dodge Ram Heavy Duty 2500/3500 Feature Availability.

 

[dalexander]

A Dodge salesman stated today that the 2007 model trucks will be virtually the same as the 2006 models until after the first of the year when the new fuel is introduced everywhere, the 6. 7 Cummins wont be available in the 2500-3500 models EVER, and will only be installed in the larger trucks!

Anybody here have the straight scoop on this?

It is possible that the dealer he works for will pull their full Allocation before 01/07. The laws state any diesel MFG'd after 01/07 must meet new standards. They can still sell the early '07's until they are gone. I'm sure some dealers are probably ordering early just in case the 2007. 5's are duds.



Dennis

 

[J.BURCHFIELD]

As a general rule a salesman will say whatever it takes to make a sale. A salesman or sales consultant (more B. S. ) is a representive of the dealer. As a general rule a dealer is in the business of being a dealer because it is the type of business that attracts buyers that the dealer believes are uninformed and can easily be taken advantage of. Not only in sales but in his repair, parts and servicing business. The sad truth is they get away with it. Proof lies in the fact they charge triple or more for the parts they sell in their parts department. If they do irritate someone and they never come back they do not care. In a few minutes a new sucker will walk through their door. Meanwhile the extra money they make ripping people off much more than makes up for a lost customer and they know that and count on it. I am now 78 years old which does not make me the smartest guy around but I have had my share of dealing with dealers. My way of doing business is to find out the invoice price and that is what I offer. If they won't accept it then I go to the next dealer on my list. Once the purchase has been made I never return. Even if something goes wrong under warranty I do not go back. I know honest people if I can't make the repair myself. Present yourself to a dealer and he will smile in your face and his repair crew will knife you in the back. As they make the repair they will "fix" something else to soon go bad to get you back. Some of you will disagree because your experience has been good. I am happy for you. For me I prefer to do it my way. Invoice price is not invoice price it is what the dealers association wants you to believe invoice price is. Think about it, would you invest millions of dollars in a dealership to sell cars and trucks for what you paid for them? Factories make money when they sell to the dealer (several thousand) and the dealer makes money when he sells to a customer (several thousand). Not satisfied with that they try to sell undercoating, scotch guard and any other unnecessary item they can. Then they want to finance through their connections so as to get a kick back and also sell you insurance from which they will also get a kick back. You can get your own financing and get insurance from the company you choose. The dealer won't like and will give you a song and dance but stick to your guns. When I go to an independent shop still under warranty, I am not alone. For no other reason I will gladly pay for what needs to be done at an independent shop rather than endure the aggravation of having to deal with a dealer. Dealer is a 6 letter word and I use it because there is no 4 letter word, that I know of.

 

[HEMI®Dart]

How come the 2007 Model Rams are not out yet? Are they waiting for ULSD to be available everywhere?

 

[Rebel Ram]

J. BURCHFIELD ... I'm listening. The "Dealer" is not our friend. And although it goes againced my nature to go into a situation with the idea of "I'm going to treat this person as less than deserving basic human respect", You have to. But compared to their tactics that is more than they deserve.

With all the dishonesty and misinformation we deal with from a dealer of in my opinion the best trucks on the market. Imagine the mindset of a sales person selling 6. 0s and foisting them on a customer with no clue.

 

[DPKetchum]

Wow I know folks that would use nothing BUT a dealer for repair and most maintance. Some been using/going to the same place for years.

 

[J.BURCHFIELD]

DPKetchum, HI, I would say they must have found a good dealer or they have bought into the idea of haveng so called "factory trained tecnitians" do the work because they think they get a better job done and it might very well be the case at some dealers. I am not saying they are all bad. Just pointing out that when you go to one you more than likely wind up getting a rude awakening. Their prices are beyond reason. A man I know, a wonderful transmission tech. will do a repair, gladly, at a shop he ownes, for $800 while a dealer charges $1800. As for me if I were to break down in front of a dealer I would call a tow truck and either have it towed home or to an independent that I know and trust. On the road far from home I would get a motel and talk to the people that live there until I found one with a good reputation. I carry enough tools to fix most things.

 

[DPKetchum]

Every business has its own overhead. Take away the sales floor and tell me how many indepedent shops are out there with a parts and service shop(with support) no matter how frustrating as good as most dealers. I know techs that have been at one product for years and decades. The dealers around me have a large service business for the most part. The GOOD independents are far and few.

 

[J.BURCHFIELD]

Probably the thing that irritates me the most is that we are "handled" by someone that is trained to handel people. We are fed a stream of talk they hope confuses us. Sure they have an overhead to worry about. Go to a dealer at 7AM and see the cars and trucks lined up. They are not hurting for business inspite of the way they do business. Go back because the mechanic did not do the job right and that same mechanic must be the one to do it over. You can call PR in Detroit and the same mechanic still has to work on it again. I disagree. Why should I have to put up with them training a mechanic on my truck. How do I know if he can get it right the second time if he could not do it right the first time. When I ran into this I took it to another dealer. They said park over there and I waited until I knew they had no intention of working on my truck and left. The dealer I left probably had phoned the next closest dealer and said lets teach him a lesson or words to that effect. They think they have you in a trap and you have no choice but to deal with them or that you are too stupid to go to an independent shop. The mechanics at an independent shop do the same jobs every day that the mechanics at a dealer do. Their working conditions may be better or worse. A good mechanic can work where he likes it best.

 

[DPKetchum]

Shops don't call one another and do that sort of thing. Thats a far out fantansy. The only times any interaction is a once in a blue moon manufacture sponcered school or meeting. At ANY shop the same tech has to work on something thats not done correctly if he worked on it before. Most independent shops work on many differant makes amd models and very seldom get real deep knowledge on one. If any thing their OUT is it needs to go the dealer once they slopped up the gravy.