200k on a 6.5 diesel Blazer?

[illflem]

Ran into a salesman for a diesel injection service driving a 6. 5, asked him how he liked it and he raved about how great it was, said it was only on it's third engine with 200k. Is that good? Seems pretty bad to me.

 

[LSMITH]

I was fueling up tonite and was talking to a guy with a 95 chevy van. He said it had a little over 400K on it and the engine had not been touched. I think that is a lot better than 3 engines in 200K!

 

[Power Wagon]

That's not real good, even for a 6. 5 engine.

BTW, care to name the shop? I mean, it's not exactly a roaring endorsement of the shop for them to drive 6. 5 chevy.

Then again, the 6. 5 trucks are cheap by comparison...

But NOT if you have to buy 2 engines in 200K.

 

[illflem]

Mark, this one's close to home for you, it was Diesel Injection Service of Oregon. He was peddling turbos at my local auto parts store. The salesman also raved about how the Duramax was the wave of the future and how it had been in service for five flawless years in Japan. I didn't want to argue with him. He said that all the miles on the Blazer were "hard" ones, he turned it on in the morning and didn't shut down until he checked into a motel every night. When I pulled into the auto parts the Blazer was idling there, when I left a half hour later it was still idling there. Maybe 3 engines in 200k isn't too bad after all when half the engine run time isn't on the odometer. He also said that the Dodge trucks were the only ones that had a "real" diesel engine in them, even though Ford owns Cummins. He wasn't wrong about everything. Don't think I'll be doing business with them.



[This message has been edited by illflem (edited 04-27-2001). ]

 

[danandamy]

Originally posted by illflem:


Ran into a salesman for a diesel injection service driving a 6. 5, asked him how he liked it and he raved about how great it was, said it was only on it's third engine with 200k. Is that good? Seems pretty bad to me.

From the 6. 5 owners I've talked to, it's about typical.

Daniel

 

[Power Wagon]

Originally posted by illflem:
Mark, this one's close to home for you, it was Diesel Injection Service of Oregon. He was peddling turbos at my local auto parts store. The salesman also raved about how the Duramax was the wave of the future and how it had been in service for five flawless years in Japan. I didn't want to argue with him. He said that all the miles on the Blazer were "hard" ones, he turned it on in the morning and didn't shut down until he checked into a motel every night. When I pulled into the auto parts the Blazer was idling there, when I left a half hour later it was still idling there. Maybe 3 engines in 200k isn't too bad after all when half the engine run time isn't on the odometer. He also said that the Dodge trucks were the only ones that had a "real" diesel engine in them, even though Ford owns Cummins. He wasn't wrong about everything. Don't think I'll be doing business with them.

[This message has been edited by illflem (edited 04-27-2001). ]

Sheesh, clear up there? Man, those guys go to the ends of the earth to try to make a sale...

I'll have to tell my former boss to send someone up that way on a sales trip. Maybe he'll go. At least he won't tell you anything crazy like Ford owning cummins #ad





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[ToolManTimTaylor]

Funny I had a 6. 5 TD Chernobil..... I mean Chevy and that engine thang in 200k sounds like the owner's problem. What I mean Is the 6. 5 from what I was told when I had it would be the key. The injection pump on the 6. 5 uses engine oil in a totaly diferent manner than we do out of the filter housing is a line that supplies the pump with engine oil. The critical point to the 6. 5 is a. NOT using FRAM! b. change it often or use an oil guard string filter. (This is tricky but I will jot it here----->) A guy who I thought to be 6. 5 savy explained that when the oil gets dirty or filter fragments enter the pum this increases the pump's heat retension thus, creating serious Catavation (HEATING of a liquid forcing it to expell a gasious state of the liquid it once was) which in turn would make these motors run in a sense "Lean" generating a lot of heat for it's own workload. However I have seen the 6. 5 last 300k (EYE witness) on a suburban whose owner was more than religous on oil changes plus had an inline string filter. So that supported the "dirty oil theory" I sold mine because in 10,000 miles It had puked a steering box,Trans,a/c compressor,... . oh yeah a hood release from frequent opening #ad
other than that *I* liked the truck alot and still own a chebby gasser tahoe Z-71 two door and love it. But my Mopar-Master-dually... ... Now that is my official marriage!

(with the dollar against the Yen..... My . 002/34 Cents worth #ad

 

[Power Wagon]

Originally posted by ToolManTimTaylor1:
Funny I had a 6. 5 TD Chernobil..... I mean Chevy and that engine thang in 200k sounds like the owner's problem. What I mean Is the 6. 5 from what I was told when I had it would be the key. The injection pump on the 6. 5 uses engine oil in a totaly diferent manner than we do out of the filter housing is a line that supplies the pump with engine oil. The critical point to the 6. 5 is a. NOT using FRAM! b. change it often or use an oil guard string filter. (This is tricky but I will jot it here----->) A guy who I thought to be 6. 5 savy explained that when the oil gets dirty or filter fragments enter the pum this increases the pump's heat retension thus, creating serious Catavation (HEATING of a liquid forcing it to expell a gasious state of the liquid it once was) which in turn would make these motors run in a sense "Lean" generating a lot of heat for it's own workload. However I have seen the 6. 5 last 300k (EYE witness) on a suburban whose owner was more than religous on oil changes plus had an inline string filter. So that supported the "dirty oil theory" I sold mine because in 10,000 miles It had puked a steering box,Trans,a/c compressor,... . oh yeah a hood release from frequent opening #ad
other than that *I* liked the truck alot and still own a chebby gasser tahoe Z-71 two door and love it. But my Mopar-Master-dually... ... Now that is my official marriage!

(with the dollar against the Yen..... My . 002/34 Cents worth #ad

I have no idea why this person made up that stuff about the injection pump. No 6. 5 pump has any engine oil in it whatsoever, with the exception of the little needle bearing on the drive shaft next to the drive gear.

The 6. 5 pumps from 92 and 93 have a pretty decent life... about 90 to 130K miles. And, they aren't too badly priced to replace.

The ones from 94 and up are almost in the ballpark with the VP44, and are not very reliable. Early on the game, it wasn't uncommon to see a 100K engine have used 2 to 4 pumps.

The problems iwth the 94 and up are electrical, not mechanical

 

[Missouri Mule]

I have a customer who just bought a ford 150 quad.
Sold his blazer with a 6. 5 or (was it 6. 2) with 150,000 original engine.

 

[Davison]

Time to fess up... . My 'other' diesel is a, gulp, Chevy. There I said it! Now everyone knows!
A 1984 6. 2 gutless marvel from detroit, that blew up on me at 180K. Fool that I am, I put in a brand new 6. 5L engine. In less than a year the auto trans blew. I have about 180K on the new engine and would sell it now that I have a "REAL" Truck, except for two things:
1) I've replaced everything on it, and some items 3 times, with lifetime guarantee items whenever possible, and 2) I'd need someone who wanted the darned thing!

Actually it has given me many trouble free miles on some really long hauls (4 round trips to Alaska), and it did blow up close to home #ad
but mercy! It just doesn't compare to a Cummins with a stick!

We plan to use the 'Cheby' for those short hauls around town that prematurely wear on your Cummins, and for those dirty jobs so we don't have to muss up our purdy new truck!

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[rickhans]

See the other topic above "1984 GMC 6. 2L Turbo Diesel" for comments that are relevant to this one.

My 6. 2 blew at 150k miles, but not because of any defect. My Suburban was stolen and torn up, driven across a concrete divider in 4WD. It seperated the axle tube from the differential case, bent all 4 rims, and tore up other stuff under the body. After it was recovered, it was taken to a Chevy dealer in Dallas. Among the many things they did, they put new antifreeze and water in the radiator because it was dry. No explanation was given. They gave me the truck back twice saying they were done. One time, the rear window was still busted out but they hadn't noticed. The next time, I drove it and it had 2:73 gears in the rear end with 5 bolts instead of 6 bolts and should have been 3:73. They put a 2wd rear end in a 4WD.

They piecemealed it back together, calling out the adjustor several times. When they finally said they were done, I drove it again and barely made it around the block. Then enine had no power. I fought with the insurance company who said there was no way the thiefs could have damaged the engine. (If they had to pay for a new engine they would have been into the repairs at about 150% of the then market value. Believe it or not, the dealer backed up the adjuster.

I drove out of there, it died two blocks later, I had to get a tow truck to get it home. It sat for 18 months when I started working on it myself. It had two cracked heads and all of the water went into the crank case and rusted out the bearings and crankshaft. The insurance refused to touch it. Fortunately, I found a wrecked '85 1ton armored car and bought the engine with 50k miles and put it in.

At that point I discovered that they also fried the transmission, I raised enough h. . l that the insurance paid for part of the rebuild.

I hope this wasn't too long and boring. It's just hard to tell the story without all the detail.

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[RMHanes]

This may or may not be the place to mention this, but got hooked on Diesel engines when purchased a '81 CHevy LUV with the 2. 2L Isuzu engine in it. After 264,000 miles still have the truch and engine. Figured that with this dependability would never need to buy another vehicle with the CTD. Now, don't get me wrong, the body is not much to look at but it still cranks and gets on down the road. Still manage 30-33 mpg. Right now need to replace a oil seal in the transmission.