315/70/17 No Rub ?????

[JARichard]

OK I just got under my truck and had someone turn the wheel both ways to their extremes and hold it. I do not see How I can fit another 4" of tire under there and not have rub. Would someone please post some pictures. Any one have suggestions on a leveling kit.

 

[PGoble]

Originally posted by JARichard

I do not see How I can fit another 4" of tire under there and not have rub. Would someone please post some pictures. Any one have suggestions on a leveling kit.

I have had 315's on for almost a year. The first six months without a leveling kit. I put the leveling kit on for looks, I had no problems with rubbing without it. The only time I have anything odd is when I am going through a fairly sizable dip, and have the wheels cranked to one side or another, then I get I small rub for about a half a second. Haven't been able to see where it rubs.



Peter

 

[XcumminsX]

uhh... no. . My truck rubbed with no leveling kit. Dont forget about the arms...

Look here is my truck

 

[PGoble]

Originally posted by JARichard

I do not see How I can fit another 4" of tire under there and not have rub. Would someone please post some pictures. Any one have suggestions on a leveling kit.

Additionally,

You are not trying to clear another 4" of tire. The total diameter of the tire may increase by 4", but this results in only a 2" increase on each side, thus you only need room for an additional 2" for clearance.



Peter

 

[rbattelle]

X,



That thing looks awesome. That's where I'm headed with mine... (we even have the same color).

 

[PGoble]

Originally posted by XcumminsX

uhh... no. . My truck rubbed with no leveling kit. Dont forget about the arms...

Look here is my truck

xcx,

You rubbed because you have the steel wheels which have a different offset than the Aluminum wheels. With the Aluminum wheels, you can run 315's without a leveling kit.



Peter

 

[JARichard]

OK Pgoble I just measured and i only have a 1 3/4" for clearance with factory tires. I know i must divide the difference by 2. But there seems to be a major conflict as already seen here. One group says no rub one says a lot of rub. My next questiion should be factory rims are after market.

 

[PGoble]

Originally posted by JARichard

OK Pgoble I just measured and i only have a 1 3/4" for clearance with factory tires. I know i must divide the difference by 2. But there seems to be a major conflict as already seen here. One group says no rub one says a lot of rub. My next questiion should be factory rims are after market.

I am running the factory Aluminum rims. FYI, 315/70R17's are 34. 36" tall. 265/70R17's are 31. 61" tall. The total diameter difference is 2. 75". That equates to 1. 377" additional clearance needed, not 2".

 

[nickleinonen]

mine has not rubbed at all yet. all stock suspension, stock alloy rims, 315 bfg's...

 

[XcumminsX]

let me re-say myself... Mine didnt run without the 2" leveling kit unless i turn fast into a incline... then i heard it rub. So i got the 2" leveling kit so i wouldnt have to worry. . I honestly think with the set-up i have now with aftermarket rims i could fit 37's on it. Mine wheels are steel. I am going to get the new teflon coated black 17" american racing wheels come spring

 

[Phil Howell]

My '04 2500 4x4 with factory aluminum wheels rubbed with 315's and no lift/levelling kit. I swapped them for 285's and they work great with no rubbing.

 

[XcumminsX]

Originally posted by rbattelle

X,



That thing looks awesome. That's where I'm headed with mine... (we even have the same color).

Thank you. I looked at yours and i really wish mine had the overhead cab lights :{ . And that computer you have in there is awesome



Nick

 

[bighammer]

Mine rub when turned to lock (level ground, factory alloys)

 

[Tejasdge]

I rub with no level kit and factory aluminum wheels. Gets pedestrians out of the way when I turn in to park. RRRRRRRRRRR

 

[XJSuperman]

I put this in a nother post... and I have yet to be under the front axle enough to know... but there should be a steering stop bolt on each knuckle on the front end. If so then all you have to do is pull the bolt and stick a couple flat washers on it and bolt it back on. If you are already rubbing on the control arm then you have already lost a small amount of turn radius... adding the washers (however many you need) will keep the tires off the control arms and you will only lose a negligible amount or turn radius.

 

[VStahl]

no rubbing at all

I have the 315's and the chrome clad steal rims. I even have the extra weight of a ranchhand on the front and I have yet to rub what-so-ever. I have been deer/elk hunting where I have gone down some really nasty roads that flexed the suspension quite a bit and never rubbed. The tires have been on my truck for over 10,000 miles now.

When I was thinking about buying the tires I too did not think that the tires would fit without rubbing. But I decided that i would give it a try after seeing a 1500 4x4 being able to do it without too much of a rubbing problem. I figured that my 2500 sat up quite alot taller then him and he showed to have little rubbing so I thought I would give it a try.

Also, there are so many members on the TDR that have not had issues with rubbing.



I have a pcture of the truck with the tires in my reader rig, not very good for showing the clearance of the tires. the picture is without the ranchhand also. I will try to update it in a little bit.

 

[David Muench]

No rubbing here with 315's and aluminum rims. I did run for a few months with no leveling kit and it was fine. Now I have the adjustable Kelderman air ride front setup, and it's still great.

 

[JARichard]

THANKS TO ALL!!! I see there is still conflict. But I gather the back spacing is different between aluminum and chrome. Personally i do not see having aluminum on an oof -road truck So i got the chrome. I have about 20,000 mile left on michelins. After that i will level and decide between the BFG's or the GY MT/R's in 305/70/17. I do not pull anything heavy just a 4-wheeler and every once in a while i will have 2,000 lbs. in the bed.

 

[David Muench]

I don't know if the back spacing is different, but the wheel widths are different - 7. 5" vs 8" if my memory serves me. If that extra . 5" is on the outboard side of the wheel, that could make all the difference though.