350/650 Engine Tag

[bigdaddycummins]

A Tech At Dealer Told Me That 6. 7 Was Gonna Be 350/650 But It Cant Meet Emmisions So They Tuned It Down To 325/610 He Said At School They Told Him This All Info Iread And Dc Put Out Its 350/650 Iam Talking About Pickups Not Cc Has Any Body Looked At A 6. 7 Engine Tag In A Pick Up And Seen What Its Rated At Thanks

 

[Seaner]

From what I have read, the Cab and Chassis will have the 325/610 rating, and the 2500 and 3500's(w/ auto trans) will have the 350/650 tag. I have also seen that the new 6. 7 CTD meets emissions through 2010.



http://www.dodge.com/en/performance/ this shows spec sheet for 2007 Dodge vehicles.

 

[Bob4x4]

I haven't read the tag,but I have driven a few now. I say 350hp. The D/C trainer local here only knew what his trainer told him and that was 6mos ago :-laf The 6spd auto is awesome,haven't driven any manuals in the p/ups yet. The cc's are very weak in comparison in the power dept.



Bob

 

[Bob V]

From what I have read, the Cab and Chassis will have the 325/610 rating, and the 2500 and 3500's(w/ auto trans) will have the 350/650 tag. I have also seen that the new 6. 7 CTD meets emissions through 2010.



http://www.dodge.com/en/performance/ this shows spec sheet for 2007 Dodge vehicles.

The CC are 305hp and 610tq

 

[Seaner]

Correct. I knew that, just mis-quoted... . oops!

 

[DDahl]

You must remember that there are TWO entirely different 6. 7s for sale by Dodge. The CC 6. 7 (EB's) is designed to meet 2007 emission requirements. It only has a CAT and DPF and can tolerate some older fuel without damage. However, all the 6. 7s put into Dodge pickups (2500 and 3500) are designed to meet 2010 emission requirements. This means that they have a CAT, NOx absorber (first vehicle in North America), and a DPF. Anything other than ULSD will be death to the NOx absorber (expensive!! all three welded into exhaust pipe).

 

[jelag]

I have to feel differently than DDahl... . the way I understand it is its the same engine... . and based on the size and weight capacity of the truck it will have the correct items needed added to the truck to meet emissions... . the heaver rated trucks get less, the lighter stuff gets more... .

From a manufacturing stand point it doesn't make sense to make 2 different engines and all the written information published in the trade publications, "Light Truck", and some of the manufacturing magazines I've been getting and read the engine is the first engine to meet the 2010 standards with the correct equipment added based on the chassis it will supply.....

If you see this in a different way please sight where you've seen it written there is more than one engine... . now 2 engines might have different soft ware and be rated differently but the hard mechanical parts are all the same.....

 

[DDahl]

There are TWO different 6. 7 engines. According to Cummins they share 80% of their parts between them and 40% with the 5. 9. Go look at the exhaust system in a CC 6. 7 and compare it with the exhaust system in the 6. 7 pickup.

The CC 6. 7 has a Cummins 2007 emission system and the 6. 7 pickup has a first in North America 2010 emission system. There is a detailed discussion of the 6. 7 pickup's 2010 emission system in Diesel Progress (February 2007).



It makes no sense why DC would use two different engines and two different automatics in this year's trucks. I thought they planned to standardize and save money. Blame it on the Germans or stupid marketing types -- typical DC.

 

[RBischke]

There are TWO different 6. 7 engines. According to Cummins they share 80% of their parts between them and 40% with the 5. 9. Go look at the exhaust system in a CC 6. 7 and compare it with the exhaust system in the 6. 7 pickup.

The CC 6. 7 has a Cummins 2007 emission system and the 6. 7 pickup has a first in North America 2010 emission system. There is a detailed discussion of the 6. 7 pickup's 2010 emission system in Diesel Progress (February 2007).



It makes no sense why DC would use two different engines and two different automatics in this year's trucks. I thought they planned to standardize and save money. Blame it on the Germans or stupid marketing types -- typical DC.

Today checked my new 6. 7 mega cab pickup recieved about March 9. Only has a cat and DPF. Sticker under the hood says 2007 EPA emissions. Is it possible they are making them different again for Canada.

 

[EMD-Run8]

I think the difference for the Chassis Cabs is that they are considered "light heavy-duty" and can therefore get by with a different setup for now as opposed to pickups being "light duty". Don't know why the latest pickups are "2010" certified since it isn't required yet. Maybe just to one-up the competition. As for the two automatics-----the Aisin is PTO capable and the 68RFE is not.

 

[hintonJ]

Noticed a 6. 7 pickup at my local dealer today. Looking under the truck I say a cat, DPF, and compared to my '03, a tiny muffler. Also noticed a massive driveshaft that looked like aluminum.

 

[DDahl]

Noticed a 6. 7 pickup at my local dealer today. Looking under the truck I say a cat, DPF, and compared to my '03, a tiny muffler. Also noticed a massive driveshaft that looked like aluminum.

What you saw was the NOx absorber cat followed by the DPF. The normal diesel cat is up near the turbo. It has a heat shield around it and is quite small. The January 2007 Diesel Progress has a well marked exhaust pipe illustration and it matches the 6. 7 pickups that I have seen perfectly.

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

There are TWO different 6. 7 engines. According to Cummins they share 80% of their parts between them and 40% with the 5. 9. Go look at the exhaust system in a CC 6. 7 and compare it with the exhaust system in the 6. 7 pickup.

The CC 6. 7 has a Cummins 2007 emission system and the 6. 7 pickup has a first in North America 2010 emission system. There is a detailed discussion of the 6. 7 pickup's 2010 emission system in Diesel Progress (February 2007).

Not to say Diesel Progress is wrong but I think they have the C&C mixed up with the Euro 6. 7, which is very different inernally from the 6. 7 used in the Dodge pickups (bore and stroke, different pistons, etc. ).



I believe the 6. 7 long block used in the C&C and pickup truck lines is identical, with the differences lying in the external hardware based on emissions setup. But correct me if I'm wrong, I been wrong before! :-laf

 

[CUMMINZ]

differences

When someone gets photos online of newest 6. 7 and DPF, etc. compare with my photos at http://www.gorowan.com/2007ram