6.7 into 1st gen?

[CTaylor]

I have access to a 6.7 cummins from a friend for free. How bad of a job is it to install one of these into a late 1st gen, a 92 specifically ?

 

[RWherley]

Getting it to bolt in would be easy, but you would either have to bring over all the computers and sensors with it or go custom and convert it to a mechanical injection system like a P-pump, either way its going to be a lot of work, time, and money, it would be easier to add power to a 12 valve to match a 6.7 then to the swap. Unless its somthing you want to do just to be different.

 

[cerberusiam]

It is definitely a project, from both the mechanical and electronics side. You will need to fab new motor mounts and then decide what trans and pieces are going to be used from the mechanical side, pus, you will want hydro boost for brakes as there is no vacuum source, that has to come from a 98 or newer truck IIRC. Might be able to adapt the newer systems but that is a project of its own.

To get the full effect of a CR you need to transfer the ECU and the engine control harness and isolate it to just the engine control parts, you are picking thru and existing harness or going to a painless harness and starting form scratch to get all the needed sensors and controls integrated correctly and then a programmer that will allow tweaking.

It is all doable but it is not a bolt in project.

 

[DVolk]

A while back I seen a 6.7 that had a " VE " pump on it I am fairly sure it was all factory so who knows I wish I could find a score like that I have a Excursion that is begging for something other than a V10

 

[cerberusiam]

The only VE on a 6.7 was a custom job that, nothing other than CR has been built by Cummins for 15 years. Too many emissions to meet both on and off road. More than a few issues getting gauges and sensors to work correctly in something like an old style pump on a CR engine. They are built to idle with pressures more than VE had at max so it is problematic to make power.

 

[Mikey-KE7LBB]

It can work for a price!

Not sure if the Zeus ECM is still around, but IIRC it was WAY expensive back in '09

 

[cerberusiam]

Not at $6k for the Zeus when all you really need to do is some custom programming on the OE ECM.

 

[Shadrach]

The charger cooler would be way to small in a 92. The bolt pattern on the back of the block is different on a common rail engine and even the old pan bolt pattern his different. Almost anything can be done with enough time, talent and money. I have seen a 440 in a PT cruiser. It made a real cooler sleeper, but here we are dealing with electronics. I know a guy who put a p pumped engine in his 03 but he had no dash gauges because the engine had no sensors. he had to use aftermarket gauges and GPS for a speedo. What you want o do would be even more complicated. Like it has been it can be don but it's nt for the faint of heart ( or wallet )

David