92 fwd with Getrag

[1stgen4evr]

Monte, I know all too well what you did. It is in fact what got me into a Getrag about eleven years ago. I borrowed my brothers 93 and due to a string of errors, I wound up towing the truck about 12 miles. Gezzz I should'a dropped the drive shaft.



What you have done is smoked the pocket bearing. That will include most likely the shift segment that is the slide collar and syncros for 3 and 4 gear. Very likely the main shaft is going to be bad at the bearing land as will the input shaft since the outer race is ground into the back of the input shaft. The speed bearings on the rest of the main shaft and gears on it may be ruined but (hopefully) may not.



Worst case, you don't have enough left to warrant rebuilding, least case, you have spent 6 to 700 buck and a ton of labor.



This happens because the transmission (pocket bearing) will not tolerate towing what so ever. There is no means to move lube oil around if the input shaft isn't turning and when you tow, that is the case and you now have the result.



Console yourself with the fact that you are not alone. It isn't the end of the truck. It is expensive. You are about to learn more than you want to know about Getrags.



I may have a few used good parts. When you have it laid out, we can talk a bit more. I think Jleonard has the manual on a CD that he will send you by email. You will want one from somewhere. EZGZ did a very good write up on the r and r. You may want to remove the floor around the transmission. That has been discussed in the forum as well. And you don't take it apart with a torch as has been mentioned. As you get into the project, I will help with what ever questions you have.



James



By the way, I wound up buying the 93 and it now has 500k miles on it. Still driving it part time since I have four more that I swap out on. I would not hesitate to drive it coast to coast if needed.



I tried to reply to your email but my server indicates that the address is invalid. Send your email address by PM and we can talk more.

 

[Monte]

my son (tanner) had one of his high school buddies(holden) pull the trans last night. . they said it was NOT fun. . i will let you know what we need shortly, perhaps thursday when i get back to school(ag shop) at 7:30 a. m. central time... . while we have the truck down... . it sat on a farm since 2000... when we got it, the guy said the engine was blown, we found a rat nest on the k@n filter, pulled it out,put in a new paper filter, changed fluids, filters... and a fresh battery... presto, she ran... then diesel in crank case. . problem a o-ring at the injector pump. fixed. . do you think we need to ck out anything on the engine while she is down? she supposedly had 200,000 on her... would i be better off doing a rebuild while i have her down?? tanner cole(t. c. ) wants to put in a different type clutch, oversized injectors and a different air intake system, its a high school boy thing!!! anyway, any ideas on clutches? she has a410 rearend... thanks, monte

 

[TKingsbury]

If the engine runs good, doesn't smoke (in a bad way), has good oil pressure (hot pressure), and doesn't have any unusual sounds, I'd run it.

Travis. .

 

[1stgen4evr]

OK. I see that you are new on the forum so aparently something you are doing is blocking me from answering through my email. Probably got something to do with using the school computer. They have to put all sorts of blocks on those to keep the stupid ones from abusing the privilage. I am going to send you a PM (that is a private message) which will have a banner flashing at the top of the forums when you open the TDR site. You may not be able to respond on the high school computer but if that is the case, you are going to need to access one that will let you sign on and do all the features available. I will be happy to respond but don't want to use the forum for all this.



Follow Travis' advise and run the heck out of it if all the signs are good.



As to clutches, I am 63 and did my share of that sort of stuff in my time but every thing I own now is pretty much box stock. I do have one engine with PODs but am not running it at this time. I plan to use it in the crew project if I don't go with the 03 engine.



There is lots of advise in the stickys about boosting hp and such. Also I am quite sure there are members who will jump in with advise and comments about their experience. Some of these guys are pushing some right impressive numbers with their HP boosts.



James

 

[Monte]

james, holden has found a 4500 with 150,000 on her for 900 bucks... said the kid pulled it out and put in a 6 speed... what all are we looking at as far as converting? i thought i read about a kit? what about the starters? just trying to weigh out my options... thanks, monte

 

[RBergman]

james, holden has found a 4500 with 150,000 on her for 900 bucks... said the kid pulled it out and put in a 6 speed... what all are we looking at as far as converting? i thought i read about a kit? what about the starters? just trying to weigh out my options... thanks, monte

monte

i did the conversaion on a 93 w-250 with out using a kit

i changed the engine to trans adapter and went with a second gen

starter

and clutch slave setup



i have a lot of pictures if you want p. m. me your e-mail address

and i will send them i also have severl showing the changes

in parts from getrag to nv4500

 

[1stgen4evr]

Well I am strickly a Getrag man but I do know of plenty of folks who have done the swap and are quite pleased. Most likely RBergman has all the info you need. Should you decide to repair (or if the transmission IS repairable) get back with me. What ever you do, don't pitch the leftover parts you have. Someone will be wanting them.



James