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I am new to the Cummins problems, but my 98 24 valve died while accelerating down the road. We we going about a hundred and its like the fuel got shut off or a crank sensor went bad. I can't figure it out. It cranks, but doesn't start. I need to get it going so i can go to work tomorrow!!!!



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Ryan Vig

CAT Diesel Tech



Forgot to say I just bought it last week! It has a BANKS Stinger Plus Kit. Its got 49k miles.
 
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Check the simple things first.



Do you have fuel pressure/are you getting fuel? How old is your fuel filter?



Are you getting air? Check all the hoses, and clamps from the air box, to the inter-cooler, to the intake horn.
 
Check the fuel shutoff solenoid. It would be odd to have it cut out like that but maybe it said "Hey this is just too fast!" :D



I think it's supposed to click up when he key is on, but just for fun bump the starter and leave the key on. Then see if you can pick it up.
 
Originally posted by bighammer

Check the fuel shutoff solenoid. It would be odd to have it cut out like that but maybe it said "Hey this is just too fast!" :D






That's mean. It's one thing to have a governer to limit your speed, but for the truck to decide that you went to fast, and now I am going to stop because I don't feel that you should be driving? Ouch!
 
Do you have gauges?



Sounds like a Dead Lift Pump, that took out a VP44 scenario. You could try your warrenty,, but most likely with the extra power, you can kiss it goodbye, especially if the Banks kit on your truck pierces the pump wire (Like all High HP boxes do).



It COULD be a crank sensor,, If you don't mind impersonating a redneck (HEY, I are one. ) would be to tow your truck with ignition on (or find a big hill you could pick up a little speed) and let the clutch out in gear,, hopefully your truck will fire up and run :D but if not, then your tach should read some RPM, unless your tires don't have enough traction and are sliding,, (I recommend 3rd gear to avoid that problem).



Tow your truck about 15 MPH and let the clutch out in 3rd gear,, and see if you register any RPM. If not,, well,, read on. . :(



Personally,, I think it's a bad injection pump (VP44), you had lots of RPM, and puttin' more fuel through it than stock, and MOST LIKELY a dead lift pump, which means you would be operating an injection pump that was designed to be cooled and lubricated by diesel fuel, on a vacuum. (Imagine oil pressure,, instead of 60PSI Oil pressure, you get -12PSI,, motor won't last long. . Just like your VP44)



A dead lift pump won't wipe out a VP44 immediatly,, it takes it's time, and the injection pump goes out by belching smoke, missing, and lots of assorted scary things ;) or it goes out just,, kerplunnk. You could be WOT, lift off the fuel, and when you put your foot back down,, NADA, Nothin',, Zilch.



Piers Diesel Research has good prices on VP44's if your warrenty won't cover you (Pierced injection pump wire).



Hope this helps you.





P. S. I don't think 24V's have a shut down solenoid like 12V's.



and BTW, in the 1998 model year Dodge made both 12V and 24V motors. The trucks are near identical, with similar dashes, similar mirrors, and such, but the motors are VERY Different.
 
Thanks everyone for your info. I heard from the dealer this evening that the pump is shot. Hopefully they will help me out a little bit since I just bought it a week ago. I guess I should be looking around for a pump. Anyway, this thing is way more expensive than all my 6. 5's put together!!



Thanks,

Ryan

CAT Diesel Tech
 
Originally posted by dieselluver

Thanks everyone for your info. I heard from the dealer this evening that the pump is shot. Hopefully they will help me out a little bit since I just bought it a week ago. I guess I should be looking around for a pump. Anyway, this thing is way more expensive than all my 6. 5's put together!!



Thanks,

Ryan

CAT Diesel Tech



Makes me wonder if the previous owner saw the writing on the wall and unloaded the truck before it left him stranded. Hopefully the pump is the only issue and all else will be fine. Good luck.
 
Originally posted by dieselluver

Anyway, this thing is way more expensive than all my 6. 5's put together!!



It will always be that way,, but this time, it won't be repairs and maintainance... :D It's going to be the quest for more ponies under the hood. :D



Let us know what happens. Hopefully warrenty will pick it up,,



Merrick Cummings Jr
 
If they did with the Banks kit on it, I would really be suprised, then I would make them my official dealer/service shop.
 
Did they sell it with the BANKS Stinger Plus Kit on it. Then they might honor the warrantee, unless it was sold as is.
 
Well, my pickup is fixed!! And the best thing is that it didn't cost me anything. They put a new inj pump on, but because of warranty purposes, they unhooked all my Banks "stuff". I'm just glad they covered it. Oo. Sure am glad I bought an extended warranty!!



Ryan

CAT Diesel Tech
 
All the goodies are still there, just unhooked though. I'm gonna leave them unhooked until my pump warranty runs out. Then look out, cause I'm gonna have to make up for lost time!!:D



Ryan

CAT Diesel Tech
 
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