acetone with diesel fuel for mileage increase

[JPoindexter]

i have heard that adding acetone with diesel fuel will increase mileage. is anyone out there doing this and if so what results are you getting. thanks

 

[RonaldLarson]

Try this

Pour a little acetone on a rag, and wrap it around a rubber fuel line. Check it after an hour. Tell me if you want this stuff in your tank. Now remember, this is an open air test. In your tank, it evaporates much more slowly.



This is a little like running gasoline in your truck's engine, aside from the damage to rubber and seals.

Ron

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

What's the deal about acetone in fuel? Been lots of threads on all the boards about it recently

 

[Mundgyver]

Straight Acetone on a rubber component will have some very bad effects. But with that said, what is being seen is that the Acetone is being cut to 2 oz per 10 gallons of fuel. There is 128 oz's in a gallon of fuel. The ratio of 2 oz divided by 1280 will = . 0015626% That is pretty small. So if you want to maintain that maximum 2 oz ratio for a full 34 gallon tank, you are talking 6. 8004352 oz of Acetone for an untreated tank of fuel.



The interesting thing is that if you use a fuel additive, you might already be using some Acetone and not know it.



Some of us are trying it out. My results so far are neutral. I tried 4 oz to a full tank and only yield 21+. I can get 24 mpg if I keep my speed down to 60 mph.



I have a trip coming up that is 715 miles one way. I normally get 22. 8 mpg at 65 mph. My experiment will be 7 oz of Acetone to my tank blended in with a special dip tube funnel while filling the tank. This will prevent a pure pool of acetone from forming at a given spot.



My goal is to see if I get somewhere above 22. 8 and hopefully above 24 mpg.



You can check out this site if you need something to read.



http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/



I am not saying this works, but then again, there is enough information out there, that I am curious and am willing to invest some time, a little money, honest effort and be non-biased in my approach. I would like to think that this might work, but right now I can't say for certain that it will. But we will give it a try.

 

[JLEONARD]

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141655



This was just discussed in the first gen arena

 

[JPoindexter]

well it looks like i will be investigating this more in depth. there is more than enough information/testing to make a decision. thanks for the information. and savings.

 

[biggy238]

I skimmed over that website... Alot of these people are recycling the same Info.

I would like to know where there is some legitimate testing done that I could look into. . The site I looked at before this one was a PURELY I SAID SO approach to why you should run it in fuel... a complete and total load of B. S.

I agree that it is in additives, but i haven't really noticed that they were directly responsible for a mileage increase. . rather than the cleaned fuel system they left behind.



"That excess fuel was formerly wasted past the rings or sent out the tailpipe but when mixed with acetone it gets burned, though the engine still thinks it is running straight gas. "



Also, Through what means are we evaporating the fuels? This requires an energy consumption and a phase/state change on the fuels part. Part of the reason you have a black polymer fuel tank is to limit the fuels ability to evaporate.



I'll be letting my injectors handle the task of atomization... That's what Bosch designed them for.

 

[gitchesum]

I've run it in one tank so far(2 oz per 10 gal). Lost 1 mpg on that tank.



However, the acetone may not be the only reason for the mileage drop. There were a couple of hard runs near 100 mph on that particular tank which may have contributed.



I was going to add it in smaller doses on the next fill-up, but the new can of acetone I bought was in the toolbox and somehow it all spilled out so I didn't have any left to add to the tank.



I just installed a new tonneau cover this weekend, so I need to run a few tanks of straight diesel to get a new baseline for the truck before I add it again.

 

[steved]

The gassers have had good luck with it increasing power and mileage, but I'll leave someone else try it in a diesel since it also removes lubricating qualities of the diesel fuel.



steved

 

[MLee]

The gassers have had good luck with it increasing power and mileage, but I'll leave someone else try it in a diesel since it also removes lubricating qualities of the diesel fuel.



steved

How about adding some Two Cycle motor oil, low sulpher/ash content, yet you get lubrication. Some on here swear by it.

But there have not been any long term tests as to the rubber components of the system on swelling and degeneration. We have rubber fuel lines and seals and over time these are going to be replaced sooner than what is normal. Who needs these kind of failures. I need more information that is possitive, and not from a pitch person

Just my penny's worth.

Marv.

 

[Ncostello]

I'm not putting anything else in my tank besides diesel fuel. Thats why I wanted a diesel... because it runs on diesel.

 

[BigDaddy]

... I was going to add it in smaller doses on the next fill-up, but the new can of acetone I bought was in the toolbox and somehow it all spilled out so I didn't have any left to add to the tank.

Are you sure, it spilled



With a boiling point of 56. 3° C (133° F) I don’t know if you want to be storing Acetone in that Toolbox in the Texas sun

 

[Mundgyver]

Tomorrow morning bright and early (05:30) I will be taking off over to my folks house. The trip is 715 miles one way. We will be adding 7 oz of acetone to the fuel when we fill up an almost empty 34 gallon tank. I will be able to post my results of this run Tomorrow night from my dad's house and then when we get back Sunday I will post again. With a short side trip to Spokane we will have over 1500 miles of run to check this out. I know what my mileage should and will be without the acetone, 22. 8 mpg. I have done this run repeatedly at least twice a year since July of 2000 at 65 mph with the truck weighing in at 7,200 lbs. My hope is to touch 24 or slightly beyond. If I break 23. 5, then I will consider it a success.



In addition to this, I have friend that will be leaving for L. A. in his truck on this Friday. This will be a 2200 mile run. He will also be using acetone and I will have his results posted this upcoming Tuesday about mid day. He is a engineer by trade and a hard core motor head the rest of the time. His finding will be of great interest.



One more friend and who is another engineer is currently testing acetone in his daily driver and I will have his results next Friday. This will be around town, back and forth to work.



The 3 of us know what we get within . 10's of a mpg on our rigs. So we are going to either prove that this works or disprove it. Thats our goal right now.



I will post the info as I get it.

 

[jcarey]

Nice. Look forward to your results.

 

[steved]

How about adding some Two Cycle motor oil, low sulpher/ash content, yet you get lubrication. Some on here swear by it.

But there have not been any long term tests as to the rubber components of the system on swelling and degeneration. We have rubber fuel lines and seals and over time these are going to be replaced sooner than what is normal. Who needs these kind of failures. I need more information that is possitive, and not from a pitch person

Just my penny's worth.

Marv.

Acetone... I don't believe it attacks rubber... I thought that was toluene (what they sometimes add to gas to increase octane???



I'm still leaving it to someone else.



steved

 

[TRCM]

Well, I have done it in my gasser, and it did make a noticeable difference. not yet ready to try it in the truck, as I am still sorting somethings out to find out what it's mpg really is.

 

[Mundgyver]

Well, my results of 715 miles is neutral with a slight negative. I say neutral with a slight negative because normally I see 22. 5 to 22. 8. This trip I saw 22. 3 mpg. Speed was held to 65 mph except where I had to slow down through Lolo pass. So I am unable to say that this works. We have filled the tank and installed another 7 oz of acetone and will monitor the trip back, but it is not looking good as a way to increase mileage for diesel fuel'd rigs as far as I can tell. Maybe it works better with gas. That what I have seen so far.



When I get back I will check with my two friends and see how they made out and post their results along with my update the drive home.

 

[JPoindexter]

Mundgyver. from what i gather it might take 4 or 5 tanks using acetone to see a marked improvement. even the fuel source has a large impact on gains from one brand to the next. they say results will vary, so the key might be the correct combination. your friends could show different results from tank to tank with different brands also. please keep us posted. thanks

 

[TRCM]

On my gasser it took 3 tanks to see the change. It takes a while to clean out the cylinders and all that junk.

 

[biggy238]

I don't really see how this could ever work on a diesel because you don't want fumes in your fuel system and that's what this promotes.



I do have another question. . On a gas engine, how does this state not yeild a knock/ping/detonation. In order for acetone to work, the cyinder pressure would have to increase between BDC and TDC at an unatural rate, because the acetone is using cylinder wall heat to evaporate the fuel at a quicker rate. I'm just guessing at this though so don't get too wild on me.