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HI,

I added acetone to my 1989 D250 yesterday... . Added 1 oz per 10 gallons... . My truck typically smokes at idle (not sure why... . I may try turning down the fuel screw..... Not sure what the previous owner did with the truck modification wise... he said nothing but he only owned it for 6 months).



I typically tow a 18' tandem landscape trailer with lawn equipment (total towed weight approx 3300 lbs). On my usual route to Richmond and back (Mostly highway... . some city)... I typically averaged 14. 3 MPG at 60 MPH with the AC on low.



On my first trip with Acetone in the tank, I at first noticed a marked decrease in the exhaust smoke at idle when at a stop light... . I was hopeful that either the acetone cleaned up whatever was causing my truck to smoke or it was truly actually acting as a catalyst and causing he diesel to burn more completely. Anyways, the smoke free idling lasted most of the day... . The trip to Richmond was uneventful..... When we got to Richmond traffic

stopped on the Highway (big accident closed 64 for a long time)... . I idled seemingly forever and was disgusted because I knew my mileage test was now messed up)..... Anyways... After much idling and slow creeping on the highway I decided to try my luck by getting off at an exit and trying to get to my destination via regular streets (of course it was now rush hour so more slow driving but at least moving faster than the highway).



As luck would have it, I realized I was now lost and to make matters worse the truck was idling roughly and was pouring out LOTS of smoke at idle and part throttle (smoke color was hard to describe but to did lay down a smoke screen... . Hard to describe the color other than kinda dark with what I thought were wisps of white or gray)... . I pulled over and decided to let the truck sit a bit while I checked the fluids (oil) and for any leaks... . I found nothing out of the ordinary so I decided to restart and push on... . At first there was alot of smoke out the exhaust again but it cleared up within 1/4 mile... . and never came back (well at least so far... . 120 miles)... . The truck has gone back to smoking its normal smoke at idle as of the end of my trip... . 170 total miles traveled BUT with alot of slow city driving and stop and go on the highway... .

Despite all the slow going and stops... . when I filled up I was pleased to come up with 13. 9 MPG ..... I can't help but think the Acetone would have increased my mileage had the trip conditions been similar... .



I will service the Richmond properties in 2 weeks and will try the test again... . Hopefully this time no accidents to ruin the regular driving conditions... . I have to admit tho that I am a little scared because of the stint of roughness I experienced and the large amounts of smoke that happened for awhile... . Anybody have any ideas what the smoke and roughness was about?

(Maybe just the acetone cleaning stuff out?... . I think I may change the fuel filter just in case... . Just curious but could a clogged fuel filter cause smoke at idle?



Any other people have positive or negative experiences using acetone... . How many ounces per gallon do you use?



Andrew



PS - I started and drove the truck a little this morning and it seems to have a miss / stumble when accelerating from a stop..... Could this have been cause by the acetone messing something up?... . Never had any of these problems until I used the acetone yesterday... . still haven't changed the fuel filter tho but I did fill it up yesterday night so and did not add any extra acetone so the acetone should be pretty well diluted... . Is it possible that acetone is a solvent and since usld has less lubrication properties someting got messed up from lack of lube... . I hope not... . The truck is in the shop now for another issue but I haven't told them about the acetone situation... . Was hoping to get ideas here before giving them an open invitation to spending my money..... BTW the truck is stock as far as I know... There is a slight fuel leak from shut off fuel solenoid area (has always leaked some and that is the reason it is in the shop now (I have to use a choke cable to shut the truck off... This was a previous owner mod... truck has

a little seepage around 1 injector and about 260K miles... . Not sure if anything has ever been done to the pump or injectors but it did run fine until yesterdays acetone test.

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

Andrew
 
pull the injectors and have them tested, maybe some crap got flushed into them and 1 is sticking, besides with that mileage rebuilding them will only help power and mileage.

by the way where are you at i have a pop tester for injectors and you are welcome to come by and use it to test the injectors if you are close.
 
HI,

Thanks for the offer but I am a little far to come over tho (in VA)... . Just curious

but if I do some hard accelerating would that help to force the possible debris or junk through the injector(s)... . or would it just make more dirt pack in it?

Thanks again

Andrew
 
AndrewKing, you do know that acetone is used to undo things that are super glued together like fingers,fingers glued to face and fingers glued to objects. Actaully you don't need that much acetone to eat super glue a bottle of finger nail polish remover with acetone will do the job.

You better hope it doesn't eat your gaskets and/or seals in your VE pump.
 
At the rate of 1 ounce per 10 gallons, that's a ratio of 1 to 1280, or less that . 1% if my math is correct. So that would have negligible affect on your fuel I would think. Besides, it'll probably evaporate away before you burn everything in the tank unless you're driving 4 or 5 hundred miles a day.



On the other hand, it is a powerful solvent with no lubrication properties at all. There is a chance over time it could eat something in your fuel system. I would never add it to my fuel.



-Jay
 
I was told by a Cummins tech that adding acetone to my fuel system was a very bad idea and would be a good way to start taking out seals in my fuel system if I used it regularly. Apparently Acetone used to be a popular thing to dump in the tank to clean stuff up, he didn't give much background so I don't really know much about it, and I am not sure if the Acetone is harmful only to my P7100 fuel system or to most fuel systems. Anyways, food for thought.
 
may have gotten bit by the ulsd also



I doubt it. I've put over 100,000 miles on mine with ulsd and have had no negative effects. Runs the same, mileage is the same, power is the same, never had a clogged filter. IMO the ulsd rumors are all myths.
 
There have been some awfully coincidental failures of seals in the older pumps of all varieties. It could be coincidence, but something tells me there is more to it.



But, any problems from the ULSD should have already reared their ugly heads by now, so my vote is the acetone, or just bad luck.



DP
 
I just had a customer recommend putting an ounce of acetone to ten gallons of fuel to increase fuel mileage. He say that semi driver's have been doing for years and he uses it in his gasser.



I would have to see what Cummins and Bosch have to say about it.
 
There was an article in one of the past TDR issues, maybe 5-8 issues ago, about the dangers of using Acetone. M. Mule, I agree. If I had a neighbour that was a bosch or cummins PEng recommending Acetone, I might consider it ok, but definitely not coming from an anectdotal source.
 
Mythbusters did a test with acetone in a gasser. The mileage was WORSE!

If it was a magic catalyst I think a reputable additive manufacturer would make a million bucks using it as an ingrediant. No way in ____ would I put that stuff in my tank.
 
I went over to a hardward store this week to check it out ( since I haven't had anything to do with it for many years).

It is flammable but it's a epoxy and fiberglass thinner. :eek:
 
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