aftermarket fuel filters for relocated/pusher pumps

[TomGolden]

Hi all,



I just added a helper pump back by my fuel tank last weekend. I know many who have either done this, or just put a single after market pump back by their tanks have also installed additional fuel filters back by the tank as well. I know Racor, Purolator, and several other brands have been mentioned on the TDR.



I'm looking for any and all suggestions, and where (hopefully online) I might get one for my truck, as well as filter elements when it comes time to change the thing.



Thanks,

Tom

 

[Bigsaint]

Tom, when I was running the Mallory pump, I used a screened filter made by Earls's. I got mine through Summit Racing, Jegs has them as well I believe. It's rated to filter down to 40 microns and flows at 5-6 GPM. No need to replace the filter, just remove it and blow it out with brake cleaner. Down side is that you really need to be using the braided fuel line for a clean install as the filter is equipped with either -6AN or -8AN male inlet/outlets ( comes in two sizes). I still have one in -6AN and one in -8AN, if you want to try one, let me know and it's yours for the asking. Here's a pic... .



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I have the fittings to make it work with 3/8" rubber line, but you end up with a in line filter that is about 1' long. If you are using the rubber line there are probably better alternatives.



Scott W.

 

[Big White Beast]

Tom,

The Purolator filter I have on mine hasn't effected pressure at all. I was curious though and called Prolator for more details. What a waste of time. Their engineer, use that word loosely, couldn't give me any specs for the filters. Flow rate or micron rating. I am using their F33165 filter, barbed both ends for 3/8 line. Gary was using the F33144 which had threaded fittings for both ends. He mentioned these was for gas and it was finer than the diesel ones. It wouldn't effect flow rate only clog quicker. He gave me 2 numbers that were for Mercedes Diesels. Part #'s F50154 and F 50153. He said the difference was straight thru or angled at 90°. As I'm watching my pressures closely now I'll keep the one I have till it starts dropping pressure.



I did an internet search and found lots of marine applications but all were similar to the Racors or really large in size. That's more than I want to get into. I like the disposable idea. I'll post if I find something better.



Scott's doesn't look bad. I'll see what I can find in the way of adapting something like that.



Garrett

 

[mikel]

I didn't put another filter on mine when I added a pusher pump. It'll probably bite me in the rear one day, but I didn't have one at the time and don't really like bathing in diesel anyway, so if there was one there I'd probably never change it anyway.





Mike

 

[Steve Campbell]

The Carter pumps....

from Summit have a SS wire mesh (approx 40 micron) inside the top cover that is easily cleanable. Eliminates the need for another external filter in most applications. Hope that helps!!!

 

[Paychk]

Has anyone any experience with this filter?



http://www.guardexlubes.com/filters.html



It is supposed to filter to 3 microns, is cleanable, and permanent. It also has a remote indicator to show when service is needed.



Just a thought.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

While there's nothing WRONG with the use of a fine-filtration filter ahead of an added pusher pump, it's primary purpose is merely to protect the pump from damage that might be caused by larger foreign particles entering the pump(s)... The downside to a fine mesh added filter, is that it will be far more likely to need frequent maintenance and replacing that the stock filter due to it's smaller size and location - of course, the UPside is better overall fuel filtration and extended life of the stock filter, since the one ahead of it will be taking the biggest hit... Sorta depends on which one you "enjoy" changing the most...

 

[TomGolden]

Thanks guys. I'm going to keep my eyes open to see what all is out there. I kind of shy away from the "permanent, never needs to be replaced" idea on anything, like non-greaseable ball and U joints... ... And if I could find a filter that is easier to replace the element on than the stock filter, so much the better. I'll let you all know what I decide on.



Well, just checked out the Racor web site. They have some nice looking stuff. Anyone know of any online sources to buy Racor stuff?



Tom

 

[jalberring]

Try here:



http://www.dieselpage.com/

 

[Bigsaint]

Gary makes a great point, only install one that will allow for easy maintenance. The Earls filter was a major PIA to service, though I did so every 5,000 miles. Fore and aft shutoffs would have helped



Scott W.

 

[Big White Beast]

Checked the big Napa here today.....

They don't have specs for most of their filters either. Went to Earl's too. Didn't really like the set up Bigsaint was talking about. They did have spin on filter housings that could be mounted to the frame. They were meant for oil but as long as the filter was correct it wouldn't matter. Napa did have some spin on filters, the only ones they had specs for. 10 microns and 6 GPM. The high flow rate had to be because of the size. Slightly smaller than our oil filters. I think fleetgaurd even makes some.



With a couple of small ball valves the replacement would be a piece of cake using the baggie trick from our oil filters. $18 for the housing and the filters were around $10 plus the valves and some fittings... ... ... Maybe around $60 dollars for a relatively easy to maintain system.



Any thoughts??



Garrett

 

[Bigsaint]

Thinking along those same lines... why not one of these... .



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This is the Goldnerod water/fuel filter. It's rated to filter down to 10 microns and will flow up to 12 gpm. Cost is a whopping $18. 00 At Northern Tool. Replacement filters cost $8. 00. Only downfall is they make the Goldenrod filters with huge inlet/outlets. You would have to downsize from either 3/4" or 1" NPT, depending on which you chose. Not really a big deal though and cheap enough/made for diesel applications.



Scott W.

 

[TomGolden]

But how would you mount that to the truck?? I was hoping for something that can easily be bolted to the frame alognside the pusher pump. It looks pretty simple

 

[Bigsaint]

Improvise, Adapt and Overcome, Tom .



Scott W.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I use another Carter fuel pump on my Dodge to transfer fuel from my in-bed tank down into the main tank as needed - on it, I use a large frame-mounted filter housing that uses a spin-on filter about the size of a standard oil filter... I'm thinking that if these other in-line filters get to be a pain (I suspect they WILL!), I'll just go ahead and get another one like my transfer filter - LOTS easier to find at NAPA, and easy to change!



Especially out in the boondocks on a saturday night, as long as you carry a spare...

 

[RADdodge]

I used the 600 (645RP12-30) Series Racor Fuel Filter w/Water Sensor & Heater. I can use any Racor filter element – I used the 30 micron spin-on filter. It separates water and has a drain cock on the housing. It can also come with a Water In Fuel sensor and a Heater. There is a gauge that can monitor the WIF sensor and a pressure sensor that is set to about 7” hg so you know when the filter needs attention. I mounted the Carter pump and the Racor filter on an aluminum plate and attached it to the frame just ahead of the fuel tank. Below is a picture of the assembly. You can click on the pictures link below to see a few more images of the setup.



The Racor site has all the specs.



www.parker.com/parkersql/default. asp?type=2&id=27



Click on the “On and Off Highway Products,” then “Diesel Spin-on. ”



p. s. I couldn't get the link to work correctly by clicking on it, but if you cut and paste it in the address field of a new browser window, it should work.

-Bruce.