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I don't remember seeing this before, but maybe it's out there. Anyway, if you're anything like me, I need to see things several times before they stick.

So, I finally decided to replace my factory headlights. It's been a couple of years since I buffed them out, but they seem to have degraded again. Here is what they looked like after buffing and polishing them in June, 2015:

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Here's what they looked like in June 2017:

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I did a lot of review reading on Amazon, and there seem to be a bunch of fitment issues with aftermarket replacements. I decided to just go with the ones from Geno's. They turned out to be made by DEPO, and they came with both the headlight and the parking/running light bulbs preinstalled, which I thought was nice. They also came with a new plastic rivet thing for where the rubber edge attaches.

It was rather easy to get the old ones out. I chose to undo the bottom outside bolt from the front with a socket and extensions (in need to get myself a nice long ¼ inch extension for things like this):

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The next issue was getting the wiring transferred to the new light. The original light had the electrical plug directly on the light socket; the DEPO light has a pigtail socket, giving you an extra six inches of flexibility. However, on the first light, I broke off both of the locking tabs on factory plug (sorry the right part is not what the camera focused on):

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The plastic was very brittle (it is at least 14 years old now) and I wasn't quite as careful as I should have been. But I just wrapped a zip tie around the two connectors, so it won't come apart.

Then, the problem. I went to put the light in and it would not seat all the way in. I got so frustrated that I pulled out the fender liner and looked in from there. My initial suspicion was that the new pigtail socket was getting pinched somewhere, but I was able to verify that it was not the problem. I must have spent almost an hour looking for what the obstruction was, there is not a lot of room to see what's going on behind the light. I was ready to put the factory light back in and return the DEPO ones.

It turns out, the original lamp has an alignment pin and a retaining clip on the top outboard edge.

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I had verified that the alignment pin was lining up with the round hole, so I figured the retaining prongs MUST be aligning with their hole as well.

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Well, they were aligning, alright, and that was where the problem was. I really couldn't see what was going on very well, as once the lamp is in far enough to jam, you can't see these pins. But then I realized, that the retaining prongs were way too big to fit into the tiny plastic plug.

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Upon further inspection, the new lamps also included a new plug for the retention hole, and they had attached it on the retaining prongs.

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Once I took that off you could see that the DEPO lamp has a slightly different retaining prong design, but I just left the old plug in the fender anyway, and it fits just fine.

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Now the lamps fit perfectly. This is what they look like now, hopefully they will stay that way for a long time:

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Overall, I am very pleased with the new lamps.

In case you're looking to do this replacement, I hope this little tidbit might save you some time and frustration.

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Thank you for the excellent documentation!

I am hoping that you will drive the truck at night for awhile and report back how well the headlights perform - things like how well they light up the roadway at night on low beam (distance ahead and to the side) and how well they do on high beam. Thanks again.

- John
 
New factory headlights come with the same "gotcha" clips pre-installed. How is the lamp beam pattern? I ran into an awful beam pattern with a set of aftermarket headlights literally having bright and dark strips in the light.
 
Thank you for the excellent documentation!

I am hoping that you will drive the truck at night for awhile and report back how well the headlights perform - things like how well they light up the roadway at night on low beam (distance ahead and to the side) and how well they do on high beam. Thanks again.

- John



I must admit, I have not done anything to align them yet. The sun was still out Saturday when I put my tools away, and I haven't had an opportunity to check the illumination pattern out. One can always hope that the illumination is somehow better, but I kind of doubt it...
 
I'm on my 3rd set on my 2nd gen.
1st was factory with the fluted lenses.
2nd was a Depot "sport light" set. IMO compared to the factory, the beam pattern was fine, but they were built a little cheaper than the factory Wagners. Not terrible, just not quite right IMO.
3rd set I put in a couple months ago. Got a good deal on fleabay on factory (Wagner) sports, so I went with them.
 
FWIW, I relamped my '98 with cheapo heads and fogs from Rock auto. It was just to clean it up- something had to be done and I had a discount. The fit/ install was a 6-7/10 but the appearance and light pattern is acceptable.
 
So I finally got around to aligning the lights and driving at night. I don't have a good place to do alignments, so I drove over to the Home Depot and used one of the walls in their parking structure. Just like the stock lights, there is only one dimension of adjustment, up and down. The adjusters worked smooth as silk. The left/right alignment is OK, I still need to lower the left one by about 4 inches or so.

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Driving around, they seem to be at least as good as the stock lamps, but for some reason they do seem to be a bit brighter.

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Driving around, they seem to be at least as good as the stock lamps, but for some reason they do seem to be a bit brighter.

Thank you for the follow up. The lights do appear to have a good pattern on the test wall. It seems that they would light the roadway evenly without dark places.

- John
 
To keep the headlights from getting hazy, I had my headlights covered with 3M Ventureshield. My truck is an 08 and lives outside all the time and my headlights still look great with no haze. I suggest looking into getting your new headlights covered to keep them from deteriorating like the originals did.
 
To keep the headlights from getting hazy, I had my headlights covered with 3M Ventureshield. My truck is an 08 and lives outside all the time and my headlights still look great with no haze. I suggest looking into getting your new headlights covered to keep them from deteriorating like the originals did.

There was something really satisfying about the old sealed beam units. Being glass, they never melted, you could use steel wool to remove the baked-on bug guts, and every so often you would just replace the whole unit for just a couple bucks!

Is the Ventureshield a DIY product or is it dealer only stuff?
 
It's basically clear window tint. I'm sure you could do it yourself if you wanted. I had a local shop do both tail lights, the entire tailgate to prevent scratches, and around the fender flares where they would normally rub the paint off.
 
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