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I have decided to replace my over load springs with an air bag system. So which one is the best ? I carry a 9K lbs 5th wheel, and want control of the ride height. (the old leaf spring overloads beat me to death). It needs to be a heavy duty unit and can take some abuse. If you have part #s/model #s please post them.

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Kyle

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I had the firestone ride-rite dual bellow air springs. I hated them, and am now going to give them away. I'd try to sell them, but they are so cruddy, I'd never feel right taking money for them. I took them off because they made the truck ride like crap. I posted this in another thread:

I put some of those on my old truck. I hated them. Jack the back of your truck up until there is no weight from the truck on the axle. Then measure the distance between the rubber bumper and the stop on the axle. This is the total amount of travel that your rear springs have. The greater this distance, and the more your truck uses when sitting (until it hits the stop), the better it will ride.



You will most likely come up with a measurement of 8-9 inches. Now fully compress one of those bags, and measure how tall it is. Then let the air back into it and measure how tall it is as it sits on a table or something. That is the total travel of the bag.



OK, I just went up in the attic and got one of them because I wanted to see if they were as bad as I remembered.



Not including the studs, it is 6" tall when just sitting there.

When fully compressed, (with my sister standing on it) it is exactly 3" tall. That means it has about 3" of total travel.



3" isn't much compared to stock, and some complain about how the truck rides stock. In reality, they really don't have that much travel. The pressure inside the bag goes up exponentially with respect to how far the bag is compressed. So unless you have an active reservoir (which I did in an effort to make these things not suck), the bag will never fully compress, making the actual useable travel about 2. 5 inches. Needless to say, my truck was very miserable to drive with those on it, thus they are sitting in the attic, and my old truck had useless holes drilled in the frame above the wheels.



There is one good use I could see for them. They would make the ultimate bump stop, like a replacement for the rubber thing on the frame. Their exponentially progressive increase in resistance to load pressure would make them perfect for this.



Even with no air, they are still limiting your total travel to 3 or less inches, and the truck will ride much worse, and if you hit any speed bumps at speed, you will bend the mounts or the frame if you're unlucky enough.



These are just my experiences and observations. Not discourage you, but I would never put those on any truck ever again.



At least I can tell you what ones NOT to get!
 
I have the Air Rides on my trk. , this is the 2nd trk. they have been on, and no problems, not 1 leak in 468K mi. I tow 5ers all the time and I think they are a necessary item. I tow 30' to 40', and anywhere in between, and diff. weights. From what i've seen, I don't see much diff. bet. the Firestones and Air Rides. I didn't install mine, but I can get 5-6" lift with mine. I removed the overloads, don't need them. I mounted the compressor in bed, on fender well beside the 5th wheel hitch. If I can help any more, let me know. BTW, my ride is much better with them, empty or loaded.

Larry
 
I have the Air Lift bags on my truck. I bent the first set of brackets they were 3/16" complained and they sent me 1/4" brackets. I havent bent these yet.

I have an 11. 5 ft camper and pull a 28 ft race car trailer. Hope this helps.
 
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Hellwig is what I use (firestone bags, but their own hardware). They have been on the truck for 4 years, and have done a trip down from Alaska + 3 years in NYC (worse roads than the ALCAN highway). I have had zero problems with them. I alway have some weight in the back + a shell on the truck. This may make a difference on the ride. I keep the pressure down at 10 pounds for an empty condition and simply add air to the bags to maintain ride height no matter what the weight.



They got me out of a real jam once pulling my boat (tandem axle trailer). Had a problem with the front wheel of the trailer on one side, that reduced its safe load considerably (two studs versus five), So I cranked up the air pressure on the bags to take the load off the front trailer wheels, shifting it more to the back wheels and adding a little to the truck and managed to get to where I could get needed parts to fix the problem.
 
I have Airlifts and Helwigs

CrewCabDiesel:



I have Airlifts on my 2500 and Helwigs on my wife's truck. Both work great. Definitely get the incab controller with air compressor.



Further, I kept the stock overloads on my 2500 with the AirLifts. I find the ride to be fine and I have the extra security of my stock overloads if I ever have an airbag failure. I tow a 15K lb 5th wheel witha 2,600 lb pin weight.



Finally, get the Rancho RS 9000 adjustable shocks. They make a great combo with the airbags.



Happy trails,



Wiredawg
 
Well I got the Air lift system(bags & compressor) on my truck now. Ride seems much better when I run around 40psi. Can't wait to hook up to my 5th or car trailer. Thanks all for the info.

Kyle
 
Chris,



If you can't find a taker, I'd be more then happy to take them off of your hands. I want to install a set on my wifes truck...



Being that it is her truck. . I personally don't care how it rides... :D :D :D



Kev
 
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