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I need to replace some of the diamond plate on the floor of the used flatbed I bought.



What is the difference between 3003-H22, 6061-T6 and 6061-T651?



Thanks in advance.
 
Material Samples: Small sizes of the following alloys: 2017, 3003, 4032, 6020, 6061, 6262, 7068, 7075, and Microporous Aluminum.



Alloy 1100 Aluminum: Commercially pure, this alloy has more thermal and electrical conductivity than other aluminum alloys. It is not heat-treatable, it offers excellent corrosion resistance and workability, and it's easy to weld and braze. It's ideal for chemical equipment, heat exchanger fins, and sheet metal work. Yield strength is 17 ksi. Hardness is 32 Brinell. Melting range is 1190° to 1215° F.



Alloy 2007 Aluminum: This alloy's excellent machinability makes it an ideal choice for screw machine parts, tube fittings, hose parts, and any component that requires extensive machining.



Alloy 2011 Aluminum: Heat-treatable alloy has great machinability and fair corrosion resistance. Superior free-cutting properties make it a prime choice for screw-machine products, tube fittings, hose parts, and many other machined components. Yield strength is 43 ksi. Hardness is 95 Brinell. Melting range is 1005° to 1190° F.



Alloy 2017 Aluminum: Stronger and easier to weld than Alloy 2011, this heat-treatable alloy also offers good machinability (although it is not as easy to machine as Alloy 2011). Workability and corrosion resistance are fair. Use for screw-machine products, tube fittings, fasteners, and needles. Yield strength is 40 ksi. Hardness is 105 Brinell. Melting range is 955° to 1185° F.



Alloy 2024 Aluminum: One of the “aircraft alloys,” this heat-treatable alloy has high strength with fair formability and workability, so it works well for spot welding. Use for aircraft parts, fasteners and fittings, wheels, and scientific instruments. Yield strength is 47 ksi. Hardness is 120 Brinell. Melting range is 935° to 1180° F.



Alloy 3003 Aluminum: This alloy may be strengthened only by cold working. It is not heat treatable. Similar to Alloy 1100, but with slightly higher strength, this alloy has good weldability and workability and offers excellent corrosion resistance. Use in chemical and food-processing equipment, tanks, heat exchangers, and sheet metal work. Yield strength is 21 ksi. Hardness is 40 Brinell. Melting range is 1190° to 1210° F.



Alloy 4032 Aluminum: Featuring high silicon and nickel content, this heat-treatable alloy provides superior wear and abrasion resistance as well as good machinability. There is no need for hard-coat anodizing often required in applications using Alloy 6061. Ideal for automotive, aerospace, electronics, appliances, and hydraulic/fluid power applications. Yield strength is 46 ksi. Hardness is 120 Brinell. Melting range is 990° to 1060° F.



Alloy 5005 Aluminum: This aluminum alloy has mechanical properties similar to 3003, but is stronger. Brighter finish than alloy 5052. Readily welded and has good corrosion resistence.



Alloy 5052 Aluminum: Stronger than Alloy 3003, this alloy offers excellent corrosion resistance (especially in marine environments) as well as good weldability and workability. It is not heat treatable. Ideal for tanks and drums, marine and vehicle bodies, and fan blades. Yield strength is 28 ksi. Hardness is 60 Brinell. Melting range is 1125° to 1200° F.



Alloy 6013 Aluminum: This heat-treatable alloy offers the corrosion resistance, weldability, and thermal conductivity of Alloy 6061 with improved machinability and greater hardness. It also has the strength of Alloy 2024. When machining, this alloy breaks into small chips, reducing downtime caused by metal buildup on cutting tools. Yield strength is 62 ksi. Hardness is 130 Brinell. Melting range is 1052° to 1195° F.



Alloy 6020 Aluminum: This is a lead-free alternative to Alloy 6262 with excellent machinability. Heat treatable, this free-machining alloy produces very small, broken chips, enabling higher productivity by allowing faster machining speeds and shorter cycle times. It offers an excellent surface finish as well as superior corrosion resistance and improved anodizing response compared to the highly machinable Alloy 2011. Applications include master cylinder pistons; valves; and hydraulic parts used in automotive, fluid power, and electronics industries. Yield strength is 42 ksi. Hardness is 100 Brinell. Melting range is not available.



Alloy 6061 Aluminum: Extremely versatile, this heat-treatable alloy combines good weldability and formability, high corrosion resistance, and medium strength. Use it for chemical equipment, vehicle parts, scaffolding, and pipe fittings. Yield strength is 37-40 ksi. Hardness is 80-105 Brinell. Melting range is 1080° to 1205° F.



Alloy 6063 Aluminum: Superb corrosion resistance and ready weldability make this heat-treatable alloy great for outdoor applications such as architectural trim, railing, and piping. Yield strength is 21 ksi. Hardness is 60 Brinell. Melting range is 1140° to 1210° F.



Alloy 6262 Aluminum: This heat-treatable alloy boasts excellent machinability and good corrosion resistance. It can be readily welded and accepts coatings well. It has good finishing characteristics (a bright, smooth finish is easy to obtain). Use it for valves, piston, hinges, and fittings. Yield strength is 55 ksi. Hardness is 120 Brinell. Melting range is 1080° to 1205° F.



Alloy 7068 Aluminum: Offering extreme high strength, this heat-treatable alloy is significantly stronger than Alloy 7075 with comparable corrosion resistance. Originally developed for ordnance applications, it is now being used for aircraft and vehicle parts as well as other applications requiring extreme high strength. Yield strength is 99 ksi. Hardness is 190 Brinell. Melting range is 890° to 1175° F.



Alloy 7075 Aluminum: One of the hardest aluminum alloys, this exceptionally strong, heat-treatable alloy has good machinability and fair corrosion resistance. An “aircraft alloy,” it is ideal for aviation parts, keys, gears, and other high-stress parts. Yield strength is 73 ksi. Hardness is 150 Brinell. Melting range is 890° to 1175° F.



Alloy MIC-6 Cast Aluminum: This alloy features outstanding machinability and stability. Formed into cast plates, stress relieved, and precision-ground on both sides.



Alloy 630 Aluminum Bronze: This aluminum bronze offers excellent resistance to corrosion and high tensile strength. It has a hardness of Rockwell 96B and a yield strength of 65,000 psi.



Alloy 642 Nonmagnetic Aluminum Bronze: The high aluminum content of this bronze make it nonmagnetic. It has excellent toughness and resistance to corrosion and can be heat treated for greater tensile strength. This metal's hardness is Rockwell 90B and its yield strength 60,000 psi.



Alloy 852. 0 Aluminum: The most widely use aluminum-tin alloy, often used as an alternative to bearing bronzes. Its low weight, excellent corrosion and wear resistance, formability, and high thermal conductivity make it ideal for bearing applications.



Alloy 954 Aluminum Bronze: The most common aluminum bronze. For pressure-bearing surfaces where strength and hardness are a must. Also for use in high temperatures and for heavy duty road and earth-moving equipment. All forms but ingots meet ASTM B505. Ingot composition is 83 copper, 10 to 11. 5 aluminum, 3 to 5 iron, 1. 5 nickel (including cobalt), and 0. 5 manganese.



Alloy 959 Aluminum Bronze: This alloy is characterized by high strength and excellent corrosion resistance. It can also be heat treated. Uses include a variety of heavy duty mechanical and structural products including gears, worm drives, valve guides and seats.



Microporous Aluminum: Porous aluminum can be used to filter air, gases and low viscosity liquids. Sheets are made from pure aluminum powder and an epoxy resin. Material can be used to create blemish-free molds for vacuum forming and thermoforming. Temperature range: -20° F to 900° F. Hardness is 32 Brinell.



Aluminum Honeycomb: Use these commercial-grade core aluminum sheets to make your own composite panel combinations. Honeycomb core sheets are strong and lightweight. Fire and water resistant.



Aluminum/Thermoplastic Composite: This composite has an LDPE core with painted finish to provide the rigidity of sheet metal with the lightness of aluminum.
 
Thanks TT. :)



From the list, 6061 is maybe what was used to make it originally? I haven't any idea. There isn't a name of any manufacturer on it that I have found to get any idea.
 
Torque this, if you are gonna go that far you might as well tell us the different types of Stainless and then we can bookmark this thread for future reference. :D
 
You asked for it!!!!

Material Samples: Small sizes of the following types of Stainless Steel: 203, 303, 304, 304L, 309, 316, 316L, 321, 416, 440C, A-286, ATS-34, 20, 15-5, 17-4, Nitronic 50, and Nitronic 60.



Type 203 Stainless Steel: Designed specifically for high speed automatic machining, this stainless steel has fast speeds, good finish, and long tool life. Yield strength is 35 ksi. Hardness is 160 Brinell. Easily welded and suitable for high temperature use.



Type 301 Spring Tempered Stainless Steel: These stainless steel coils are corrosion resistant and meet ASTM A666. Rockwell hardness is C40-45.



Type 302 Stainless Steel: The unhardened, corrosion resistant ball form of this alloy resists attack by food products, oxidizing solutions, and most organic chemicals. Hardness is Rockwell C 39. Lashing wire form is soft-temper and also offers good corrosion resistance and tensile strength. Wire has a protective wax coating and is commonly used to attach conductive cable to support strands.



Type 302/304 Stainless Steel: This alloy is corrosion resistant and meets standards for both Type 302 and Type 304 stainless steel. Wire meets ASTM A580; spring wire meets ASTM A313 (choose extra-bright when a fine surface finish is important).



Type 303 Stainless Steel: Added sulphur and phosphorus make this alloy easy to machine. Its properties are similar to Type 304. Ideal for screw machine products. Yield strength is 35 ksi. Hardness is 140-262 Brinell. Easily welded and suitable for high temperature use.



Type 304 Stainless Steel: The most widely used form of stainless steel, this basic 18-8 (18 chromium and 8 nickel) has a lower carbon content than Type 303 for superior weldability. It also has good formability and corrosion resistance. Yield strength is 30-45 ksi. Hardness is 149-187 Brinell.



Type 304L Stainless Steel: Properties are similar to Type 304 Stainless Steel. Type 304L has an extra-low carbon content to avoid carbide precipitation in welding applications.



Type 304/304L Stainless Steel: This material is dual certified. Properties are similar to Type 304 Stainless Steel, but Type 304L has an extra-low carbon content to avoid carbide precipitation in welding applications.



Type 309 Stainless Steel: High-chromium stainless steel is great for providing miniature, controlled environments to produce vacuum-like heat treating of high-carbon, high-chrome, and air-hardening steels. For best results, parts must be dry and oil free. Bag form can withstand temperatures up to 2240°F for up to 30 minutes.



Type 316 Stainless Steel: High nickel and molybdenum content can provide excellent resistance to corrosion and pitting. Type 316 has good weldability and higher strength then Type 304 at elevated temperatures. Yield strength is 35-85 ksi. Hardness is 160-235 Brinell.



Type 316L Stainless Steel: This 1/8-hard temper alloy allows some formability and has bright, diamond-drawn finish. More corrosion resistant than Type 316, it’s ideal for high-purity processes. Meets ASTM A313.



Type 321 Stainless Steel: Titanium adds high temperature resistance and superior weldability to this alloy. Use it for welded items that are subject to severely corrosive conditions. Yield strength is 35 ksi. Hardness is 150 Brinell. Easily welded and suitable for high temperature use.



Type 347 Stainless Steel: Similar in composition to Type 321, but with cobalt and tantalum instead of titanium for superior creep strength and greater hardness. Use it for highly stressed welded equipment. Yield strength is 30 ksi. Hardness is 140 to 241 Brinell. Easily welded and suitable for high temperature use.



Type 410 Stainless Steel: General purpose heat-treatable stainless steel is ideal for fasteners, machine parts, and shafts. Not for use in highly corrosive environments. Yield strength is 40 ksi. Hardness is 155 Brinell (annealed condition). Alloy is magnetic and generally difficult to weld.



Type 416 Stainless Steel: Added sulphur gives this stainless steel better machinability than Type 410. Superior for fasteners. Yield strength is 40 ksi. Hardness is 155 Brinell (annealed condition). Alloy is magnetic and generally difficult to weld.



Type 420V Powdered Metal Stainless Steel: Additional vanadium and carbon provide this stainless steel with improved wear and corrosion resistance over Type 440C stainless steel. It can be used in place of tool steels, such as D2, when extra corrosion resistance is important.



Type 430 Stainless Steel: The soft-temper tie wire form meets ASTM A580 and has good corrosion resistance and high tensile strength. The lashing wire form meets AT 7153, has a protective wax coating, and is commonly used to attach conductive cable to support strands.



Type 440A Stainless Steel: This material has a high carbon content. Good corrosion resistance properties and wearing resistance after hardening. In ball form, this material is recommended for weight-sensitive applications requiring high surface hardness.



Type 440C Stainless Steel: High carbon content makes this alloy the hardest of all standard stainless steels. An outstanding candidate for heat treating, it also has good abrasion and wear resistance. Corrosion resistance is good, but only after hardening and stress relief. Use for gears, bearings, seats, and valve parts. Yield strength is 65 ksi. Hardness is 230 Brinell (annealed condition). Alloy is magnetic and generally difficult to weld.



Type 2205 Stainless Steel: This stainless steel has a structure that consists of approximately 50 austenite and 50 ferrite. This duplex structure provides high strength and good resistance to stress corrosion. Used for head exchangers, as well as oil and gas industry equipment. Yield strength is 65 ksi. Hardness is 290 Brinell.



A-286 Stainless Steel: This alloy combines iron, nickel, chromium. Shows high strength and good corrosion resistance. Designed for service up to 1300°F.



Alloy ATS-34 Stainless Steel: An extremely hard, high carbon, high strength stainless steel. Extremely wear and abrasion resistant. Supplied in the annealed condition for ease of grinding, it can be heat treated to achieve greater hardness. This “blade steel” is typically used for cutlery, and other application requiring toughness and hardness. Hardness is 97 Brinell (annealed condition).



Alloy 20 Stainless Steel: An equivalent to Carpenter 20, this alloy has excellent corrosion resistance to hot sulfuric acid and many aggressive environments that would readily attack Type 316. It is also stabilized against loss of corrosion resistance due to intergranular attack, which might result from welding. Widely used in all phases of the chemical and allied industries. Yield strength is 48 ksi. Hardness is 86 Rockwell B scale. Easily welded and suitable for high temperature use.



Type 15-5 PH Stainless Steel: Low temperature heat treating will give this alloy high strength, corrosion resistance and hardness. Use it for cams, cutlery, shafting, and gears. Yield strength is 145 ksi. Hardness is 332 Brinell (annealed condition). Alloy becomes magnetic when hardened.



Type 17-4 PH Stainless Steel: This high-tech blend of many elements has corrosion resistance similar to Type 304, as well as good strength and excellent response to heat treating. Use it for springs, gears, and fasteners. Alloy becomes magnetic when hardened.

Includes: Type 17-4 (Type 630)

H900



H1150







Nitronic 50 Stainless Steel: This nitrogen-strengthened stainless steel offers greater corrosion resistance than Type 316 plus approximately twice the yield strength. It also offers better mechanical properties than Type 316 at both high and low temperatures and does not become magnetic when cold worked. Widely used in shafting applications, where improved strength and good corrosion resistance are required. Yield strength is 55 ksi. Easily welded and suitable for high temperature use.



Nitronic 60 Stainless Steel: This material's chromium and nickel additions give it comparable corrosion to 304 and 316 stainless steels, while displaying nearly twice the yield strength. Yield Strength is 55 ksi.
 
Sheeeesh!!! ...

TORQUE THIS, did you type all dat or copy & paste ... and all this time I thought there was medical grade stainless and thick and thin . . lol

:D



Kevin
 
Originally posted by Alpcom

Sheeeesh!!! ...

TORQUE THIS, did you type all dat or copy & paste ... :D



Kevin



If he typed that in 15 minutes from memory I would be throughly impressed. LOL. Heck I am anyway.
 
bmoeller, were you looking for a short answer?



here it is:



3003 tends to be easier to bend than 60 series.



the H22 is the temper grade which is the highest i have ever encountered, so it is not as easy to bend, but probably still easier than the 60 series. i normally use an H14 which is formable.



6061-T6 is probably the highest grade - i. e. cost also, of the 3 you mentioned. it is normally roll finished to dimension so it has a smoother and more uniform surface.



6061-T651 is an extruded product. however i am not sure how they do this with diamond plate. this is a more cost effective 60 series product.



the 60 series aluminums anodize much, much better than the 3003 material.



if you are leaving it natural or clear coating ---- after all the considerations mentioned above - buy the cheapest.



jim
 
Originally posted by TORQUE THIS

Info was copy and pasted from ...



www.mcmaster.com



This is the maintenance man's bible!



TT

I think it was you who posted a link to mcmasters in a thread I read about a year ago and I book marked it. It is an excellent site and I have used it quite a few times, there is a ton of info on that site... . Thanks again. ;)
 
Thanks, that is what I was looking for. The 3003 is quite a bit cheaper. There is a surplus store near me that carries this stuff and alot more. The 6061-T6 1/4"x4'x8' sheets are about $100 more than the same sized 3003-H22 diamond plate.



I don't know how old the bed is, but has held up well. The aluminum is still smooth, not pitted from road salt or other corrosion.



Was thinking of hitting it with some kind of cleaner before installing it. I hate the brightener that my boss buys to clean up the truck rims and trailers. Turns it all white. Very dull looking.
 
2 things to try if you want to do a little touch-up to the existing material:



1st method - you can try a standard chrome polish on a small test area first. it should brighten the aluminum. use it just like on chrome and buff it till it is a dry powder and wipes off. if the test area looks good - keep going! put a wax coat over it and it should keep it from dulling and pitting.



2nd method - if it is too far gone, you can clean it with enamel reducer and spray it with aluminum or chrome spray paint. it will tend to rub off if you walk on it or handle it, but it will protect it well if it is not disturbed.



good luck



jim
 
Very nice information on aluminum.

I didn’t know I was among such great metallurgists :-laf



Aluminum alloys are heat treated to strengthen and improve their working characteristics.



A metal’s hardness or temper, is indicated by a letter designation that is separated from the alloy designation by a dash. When the basic temper designation must be more specifically defined, one or more numbers follow the letter designation.



F = As fabricated.

O = Annealed, recrystallized (Wrought materials only).

H = Strain Hardened.

H1 = Strain Hardened Only.

H2 = Strain Hardened and partially annealed.

H3 = Strain Hardened and stabilized.



The digit following the designations H1, H2, and H3 indicate the degree of strain hardening. For example, the number 8 represents the maximum tensile strength while 0 indicates an annealed state.



Hx2 = Quarter Hard

Hx4 = Half Hard

Hx6 = Three Quarter Hard

Hx8 = Full Hard

Hx9 = Extra Hard



Therefore, 3003-H22 would be an aluminum alloy having manganese as the principle-alloying element. It has been strain hardened and partially annealed and is considered quarter hard. It is generally considered non-heat treatable. It offers moderate strength amid good working (bending, shaping, forming, etc. ) characteristics.



Generally speaking, 1100 and 3003 are “considered” non-heat treatable aluminum alloys.



You see, pure aluminum does not benefit from heat treatment since there are no alloying materials in its structure. Pure aluminum is often called “soft” aluminum for this very reason. By the same token, 3003 is an almost identical metal and except for a small amount of manganese being added, it does not benefit from being heat-treated. Both of these metals are lightweight and somewhat corrosion resistant. However, neither has a great deal of strength. For example, their use in aircraft is limited to nonstructural components such as fairings and streamlined enclosures that carry little or no load.





Keep in mind that heat treatment is used to make the metal more useful, serviceable, and safe for a definite purpose. By heat-treating, a metal can be made harder. stronger, and more resistant to impact, this process can also make a metal softer and more ductile.



Some common heat treatment identifications are:

T3 = Solution heat treatment, followed by strain hardening.

T4 = Solution heat-treated, followed by natural aging at room temperature to a stable condition.

T6 = Solution heat-treated, followed by artificial aging.



T3 and T4 tempers are noted for their excellent toughness at moderately high strength levels and can be cold worked relatively well. T6 on the other hand is noted for its excellent toughness at high strength levels. However, it is not able to be easily cold worked.



A second numerical digit would indicate the type of hardening. A six (6) in this second numerical digit for example, would indicate that the particular alloy was strain hardened. The third numerical digit is usually identified by the manufacturer of that aluminum alloy.





So, 6061-T6 would be an aluminum alloy having magnesium silicide as the principle-alloying element. It has been Solution heat-treated, followed by artificial aging which gives it a medium strength with good corrosion-resistance properties.



And, 7075-T3 would be an aluminum alloy having zinc as the principle-alloying element. It has been solution heat treated, followed by strain hardening, which gives it extremely high strength properties.







Hence, 3003 aluminum alloy, in any temper, would not be my choice for your application. Although, more expensive, think of the added strength and resistance to corrosion the 6061 would provide therefore increasing the longevity of your floor.



HTH



Joe
 
Re: Very nice information on aluminum.

Originally posted by BigDaddy



Hence, 3003 aluminum alloy, in any temper, would not be my choice for your application. Although, more expensive, think of the added strength and resistance to corrosion the 6061 would provide therefore increasing the longevity of your floor.



Joe



WOW! :eek: This more info than I was hoping for. Thank-you all very much.



Given the info that Torque This gave, and even before I reached your last paragraph Joe, that is the way I was thinking I needed to go.



Originally posted by BigDaddy

added strength and resistance to corrosion the 6061 would provide therefore increasing the longevity of your floor.



This in particular was the reason I was leaning towards the 6061-T6 that they have.
 
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