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Today we added an amber alert ticker to the top of most of the pages on the TDR. This ticker will only show when there are active alerts (canceled alerts show as active ones for a period of time evidently). We did this in response to user requests and are putting it up for a 30 day trial based on input (although if we get an overwhelming negative response we make changes earlier). Please let us know your thoughts here. If you would prefer to not provide your input in public you can PM either myself or TDRAdmin or send an email to Robin at rpatton@ix.netcom.com .



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Steve, I think that with our members on the road that this is a great addition to this already awesome forum.



Cheers, Bill
 
Personally I think it is a bad idea. I pay money each year to be here and don't want to be bombarded with scrolling alerts. If it is in my area, I will hear about it on the news, otherwise I have more important stuff to worry about. My eyes watering at scrolling yellow signs... How can I turn the thing off??



Erik
 
EBottema said:
Personally I think it is a bad idea. I pay money each year to be here and don't want to be bombarded with scrolling alerts. If it is in my area, I will hear about it on the news, otherwise I have more important stuff to worry about. My eyes watering at scrolling yellow signs... How can I turn the thing off??



Erik



I've also been against this from the beginning. Not that I wouldn't like to participate in saving a child's life, but because of the apparent lack of effectiveness of the system. (see my posts in the original thread) I also agree with Erik's statement that I pay $35 a year to be a member on a diesel site, and I don't really want to see anything else. He's right in that you would most likely see this information and more on the local/national news or in papers.



It seems that the main argument to keep it is that "we have so many members on the road. " But how many members that travel so often have access to the internet while they're on the road? Probably not very many, so this wouldn't do them much good anyway.



Another point that I made is that there are similar services available for all different types of causes. Why should we be forced to only have the Amber Alert when they are dozens of others that serve a worthy cause as well? It seems that it we allow this one, then why not others?



Just my 2 cents. I think it's the wrong service on the wrong site.
 
Some info - a little long - my last one

I wanted to address the statements concerning abuse of the system and percieved futility. The National center for Missing and Exploited Children (ncmec.org) has created guidlines for local amber plans that establish very specific criteria for when and why alerts are issued. It should greatly reduce the "cry wolf" alerts where public assistance is ineffective. You can see the criteria on their website.



Yes, you can get this info form local radio and TV IF you are watching AND they participate. We have the abliity to maybe someday make a huge difference at the cost of the occasional inconvenience of a rather obnoxious banner popping onto the screen. There is no other national network with the speed, efficiency, and effectiveness of AMBER. For all of its' failings and annoyances it does work. Below are the children recovered just this year. If you read through you will see an incredible diversity in the circustances of their recovery and the role of amber alerts.



This will be my last post on this issue. I don't want to have to change my screen name to floggin-the-dead-horse-annoying-guy.



May 26, 2005

Charleston, Illinois

A 2-year-old girl was abducted by her non-custodial mother from a day care center. Because law enforcement believed that the woman was a danger to the child, an AMBER Alert was issued. A citizen heard the Alert and soon spotted the vehicle in a shopping center parking lot. The citizen alerted authorities, the suspect was apprehended, and the child was safely recovered.





May 25, 2005

West Haven, Connecticut

A 5-year-old girl was taken by her non-custodial mother as she stepped off the school bus ready to walk into her school. Authorities were alerted, and because the woman has abused and neglected the child in the past, an AMBER Alert was issued. Many sightings were called in leading authorities to I-95. The suspect and child were soon found broken down along the highway. The suspect was arrested and the child was safely reunited with her father.







May 24, 2005

Jonesboro, Arkansas

A 2-year-old girl and her mother were abducted at knifepoint by the child’s non-custodial father. The suspect stabbed the child’s mother, dropped her off along the highway, and took off with the child. An AMBER Alert was quickly issued. After hearing the AMBER Alert, the suspect dropped the child off with relatives. The relatives, who had also heard the AMBER Alert, immediately returned the child to authorities. The child was safely recovered.





May 16, 2005

Denver, Colorado

A 4-year-old girl and her 7-year-old cousin were playing near their house when a man drove up, grabbed the young girl and put her into his car, and then drove off. The cousin alerted the family, who notified authorities. An AMBER Alert was quickly issued. A few hours later the suspect dropped the child off and she wandered into a convenience store. The store clerk immediately recognized her from the AMBER Alert and called law enforcement. The child was safely reunited with her family.









May 7, 2005

Taylorsville, Utah

A 5-year-old girl went to run errands with her mother’s fiancé. When the two did not return when they were supposed to, the child’s mother became worried because of her fiancé’s drug addiction. She called authorities and an AMBER Alert was issued. A citizen heard the AMBER Alert on the radio and saw the suspect’s vehicle in a store parking lot. Police arrived at the scene and safely recovered the child.





April 30, 2005

Robeson County, North Carolina

A 4-year-old girl was taken from her grandmother's home by a relative. Because law enforcement believed the child could be in danger, an AMBER Alert was issued. Hours after the child was taken, the suspect stopped at a convenience store for something to eat, and the clerk recognized the the suspect from the Alert. Authorities were quickly at the scene to arrest the suspect, and the child was safely recovered.





April 11, 2005

Irvington, New Jersey

A 4-month-old child and her mother were abducted at gun point by the child’s biological father. The man shot the child’s grandfather and forced the child and woman into her car and sped off. An AMBER Alert was immediately issued. A toll-booth worker heard the AMBER Alert, saw the vehicle drive through the toll, and quickly notified authorities. After a high-speed pursuit, and a three-hour hostage situation, the child and woman were safely set free. A few hours later, the suspect surrendered.





April 4, 2005

Conley, Georgia

A 2-year-old girl was abducted by her father following a domestic dispute with the child’s mother. Because the man is reportedly a heavy drug user and is known to frequent drug house, an AMBER Alert was issued. An alert motorist recognized the vehicle from the AMBER Alert and notified authorities. The suspect was quickly arrested and the child was safely recovered.





March 26, 2005

Greenville, South Carolina

A 1-year-old child was abducted by her father after the man assaulted the child’s mother. AnAMBER Alert was quickly issued. The man saw the AMBER Alert on electronic highway signs and called authorities from his mobile phone demanding that they cancel the Alert. Authorities were able to track the location of the suspect through his mobile phone and notify the highway patrol of his location. The suspect was apprehended and the child was safely recovered.





March 14, 2005

Oneonta, Alabama

A 14-year-old girl was believed to have been taken against her will by a man she had been corresponding with on the Internet. An AMBER Alert was issued. The suspect’s boss saw theAMBER Alert and immediately notified authorities of the man’s whereabouts. The suspect lead police to where he was keeping the child. The suspect was arrested and the child was safely recovered.





March 2, 2005

Stockton, California

A 12-year-old girl was abducted by a man who had previously sexually assaulted her and threatened the lives of her family if she or they notified authorities. An AMBER Alert was quickly issued. A citizen came upon the suspect and victim and believed they were homeless. She took the two to her house to feed them. When she saw the AMBER Alert on TV the woman asked the child if she was the girl from the Alert. The child said yes, and the woman notified authorities. The suspect was apprehended and the child was safely recovered.





March 2, 2005

Sacramento, California

A 3-year-old girl was abducted by her babysitter after the man dropped the child’s mother off at night school. When the child’s mother returned home to find her child, babysitter and vehicle missing, she notified authorities. Because the babysitter has a history of drug abuse, an AMBER Alert was issued. The suspect saw the AMBER Alert on TV and called authorities to turn himself him. The suspect was arrested and the child was safely returned to her mother.





February 22, 2005

Rio Rancho, New Mexico

A 5-month-old girl was left with her babysitter while her mother went to class. When her mother returned to pick her up, the babysitter’s boyfriend said that she had taken the child to the bank with her hours ago. After the woman had been gone for over six hours with the child, authorities were notified. Because police believe the child may be in danger, an AMBER Alert was issued. A few hours later a motel manager saw the AMBER Alert and recognized the woman and child as guests who had checked in the evening. Law enforcement was quickly at the scene, the suspect was apprehended, and the child was safely recovered.



February 2005

Allen County, Indiana

Law enforcement went to check on a 10-year-old boy and his mother after a doctor reported to authorities that his mother had made threats to murder her son and that she should be committed. When the two were not located at home and because the child was feared to be in danger, an AMBER Alert was issued. The woman heard the AMBER Alert and turned herself and the child into the authorities. The child was safely recovered.





February 13, 2005

Montague, Michigan

A 6-year old girl was visiting with her non-custodial father, but he failed to return the child at the arranged time. When law enforcement found out that the man has mental issues, may not have taken his medication, and is known to have delusional episodes, an AMBER Alertwas issued. A citizen heard the AMBER Alert on a local radio station, recognized the vehicle on the highway, and contacted authorities. Police were quickly at the scene, the suspect was arrested, and the child was safely recovered.





February 12, 2005

Baton Rouge, Louisiana

A 1-year-old boy and his 17-month-old brother were left in a vehicle while their mother went into a residence, at which time the vehicle was stolen. An AMBER Alert was quickly issued. A man working in the area of the abduction heard the Alert and actively began to search for the vehicle. He soon came across the abandoned vehicle and found the two boys still inside. The children were safely recovered.



February 2, 2005

Allen County, Indiana

Law enforcement went to check on a 10-year-old boy and his mother after a doctor reported to authorities that his mother had made threats to murder her son and that she should be committed. When the two were not located at home and because the child was feared to be in danger, an AMBER Alert was issued. The woman heard the AMBER Alert and turned herself and the child into the authorities. The child was safely recovered.
 
Granted everyone agrees that saving a childs life is a good thing...



First of all, most Amber Alerts are false and come from someone thinking their kid is lost or 2 fighting parents... . I'd say less than 1 percent of the members around here are always on the road and able to access the internet. If something is local, put the amber alert on TV and broadcast it. Doing this on TDR is a joke and won't ever help anyone but annoy myself and others.



If we are going to pay 35 bucks and be forced to look at this then I want a news ticker at the top with a source like gun law news so I can accually get up to date news on how my rights are being taken away... Now that effects me more but does it belong on TDR, no... If It ain't diesel related, it belongs in the other and politcal forums. When I want to read about other stuff, i go there. Now please allow me and others to turn off the Amber Alert ticker, or give me a partial refund since I'm not getting what I paid for... . Sorry to sound harsh but this is Turbo Diesel Register, not Amber Alert Register...
 
I would agree that the forums ar an inappropriate place to put amber alerts. The other site pages would probably be appropriate if the site managers want to participate.
 
I think it's a great idea.



I've never really considered the TDR as just a website. It's more of a diesel community to me.



Heck, if a TDR sees an Amber Alert, and aids in finding that child, I'll pay his subscription for as long as he/she wants to remain a member.
 
If one child is saved its worth it



I didnt spend $35 to hear what people had for breakfast , but I guess I dont have to see them post if I dont want . .



The Reading Amber Alert thing thats on my browser everytime I change pages in TDR seems to be slowing down My Dail up a little.



But I think I will survive



DM
 
GREAT IDEA!!!!!



C'mon guys, how would you feel if your child came up missing... You mean to tell me you wouldn't want as many people as possible lookin for your child.



I don't know what I would do if any of my children went missing...



I guess I have a heart and care!
 
I'm against it for two reasons.



1. Selfishness. I pay for the subscription to get diesel information and nothing else. I'd like to control the content. If there was an option to turn it off or have the choice then it could be there and I'd probably leave it on and not look at it.



2. The amber alert system is overused. Read through all the examples. How many of those are true kidnappings where the child is at risk and how many are custodial interference. One parent against the other.
 
gitchesum said:
I think it's a great idea.



I've never really considered the TDR as just a website. It's more of a diesel community to me.



Heck, if a TDR sees an Amber Alert, and aids in finding that child, I'll pay his subscription for as long as he/she wants to remain a member.



Nicely said. Perhaps if there was a a way that individuals could turn off the ticker it could make everybody happy. I will split the cost with you.
 
Steve can you make the amber alert only show up in IE Browser and make it where it dont show on fire fox??



So if a member dont want to see it he can just use a diffrent browser.



DM
 
Case in Point

How ironic - this happened in my hometown just this past weekend: A two-year old girl went "missing" from her birthday party last Sunday evening. Everyone was freaking-out (for lack of a better term) and ended up getting the state police, bloodhounds, a helicopter, and yes, the Amber Alert was activated for this kid within minutes.



Well, our local body man found this child less than 1,000 ft from her house within two hours of the child leaving her parents' sight. :rolleyes: This is just another example of how this system is abused and how a lot (if not a majority) of the alerts end up being false.



They had no other information to go on other than what the kid was wearing and where she was last seen. I don't really see how this is grounds for releasing a nationwide alert that will clutter up our diesel site.



It's good to see that more people are voicing their opinions.
 
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