any issues deleting a 2007

[LBARTLETT]

any issues deleting a 2007 (traded for different truck, read last post)

I didn't have time to do a search as I'm heading on the road



I've found a 07' dually 6. 7 with 30k miles and a 6-speed manual with 3. 73 gears. If I recall the 6 speed will run a couple hundred rpm higher than my 5. 9 with 3. 73's and the 48re automatic, does that sound right?



I know the 6. 7's had issues originally until they got them lined out, deleting a 07' 6. 7 would be the same as deleting a newer (such as a 09' 6. 7) wouldn't it?



thanks for any help or thoughts

 

[Jim W]

This depends on were you live. If you live in a state that smog checks a diesel vehicle like CA. then know I would not do it. If you live in a state that does not smog check a diesel vehicle than yes.



It is not hard and can be done with 3 to 5 hours of work depending on what you delete.



When you delete you will need a programmer like a Smarty or H&S XRT Pro. You will also then need to decided if you want to remove the EGR system or just block it off. A lot of variables to decide and than parts to buy. Most systems will cost between $800 to $1500 US plus labor if you do not do it yourself.

Jim W.

 

[Bob4x4]

Eventually all states will smog diesels... ... ... just a matter of time

 

[Cosmo]

No matter where you live it is a violation of federal emissions laws.

Getting caught though, that requires talent.

And yes, I agree that eventually all states will start smogging every car. That's one of the reasons I want to sell my 08 and get a 24v.

 

[LBARTLETT]

thanks for your input guys, I don't know if I can get it traded for or not



I'm in Texas so I think I'll be about the last to have to emission test



I do think though with that threat in the future it might be better of to block it than to remove it



thanks again

 

[mpaulson]

You won't regret doing the deletes from the trucks point of view. Use the chart that is at the link attached below to compare the different trannys and gear ratios. Download it and save it.

http://www.klenger.net/dodge/general-reference/gear-speed-calculator.xls

 

[firemansdiesel]

Like what most do when they are deleted in a smog testing state/area. Put the truck back to stock for the testing then delete after your done. Also doing just the Nox/DPF delete (DPF delete) and a programmer (i. e. Smarty or H&S product), it will turn off the EGR so you don't have to physically remove it. Makes it an hour swap if you need to go back to stock.

The only way it will make it a hard decision not to delete in a smog testing area, if local law agencies start enforcing it on traffic stops or road side inspections. I don't see the latter because of money/budget issues at this time.

 

[Jim W]

Eventually all states will smog diesels... ... ... just a matter of time

BoB4x4,

I do not think IL. will since they do not even test gas vehicles for emission compliance yet in the entire state. IL. only test for emission compliance in the Chicago Metro Area and the East St Louis metro area. The rest of the state is not check for emission compliance for gas vehicles. I know this for a fact, one of my sons has an 01 Chevy pick-up and a 02 Jeep that have never been tested. He lives 5 miles away from the Chicago Metro testing area, in a different county.

Jim W.

 

[pwr2tow]

You could just unplug the EGR motor (the one on the drivers side intake).
The only problem, if you want to call it that, is a CEL will always be on, won't hurt a thing. You'll see better MPG, oil will stay cleaner, Regen less. You can plug it back in and after about 5 engine restarts or a long drive the CEL will go away.

 

[pwr2tow]

Make sure the truck has been reflashed with the J35 reflash and your set to go.

 

[Bob4x4]

BoB4x4,

I do not think IL. will since they do not even test gas vehicles for emission compliance yet in the entire state. IL. only test for emission compliance in the Chicago Metro Area and the East St Louis metro area. The rest of the state is not check for emission compliance for gas vehicles. I know this for a fact, one of my sons has an 01 Chevy pick-up and a 02 Jeep that have never been tested. He lives 5 miles away from the Chicago Metro testing area, in a different county.

Jim W.

Interesting... ..... but the way things are headed I would not be surprised for a fed take over

 

[Cosmo]

BoB4x4,

I do not think IL. will since they do not even test gas vehicles for emission compliance yet in the entire state. IL. only test for emission compliance in the Chicago Metro Area and the East St Louis metro area. The rest of the state is not check for emission compliance for gas vehicles. I know this for a fact, one of my sons has an 01 Chevy pick-up and a 02 Jeep that have never been tested. He lives 5 miles away from the Chicago Metro testing area, in a different county.

Jim W.

It will happen, give it ten years or so. FL doesn't test, most of WA doesn't test, but they will.

 

[rscurtis]

As the population of old vehicles is scrapped, there will be no need for emissions testing any more. It will be just another "feel good" form of hidden taxation.

 

[Cosmo]

You don't think that a 5 year old car, poorly maintained, will fail an emission test?

 

[Bob4x4]

:-laf Sitting in a 4x4 in stop and go traffic I see alot of lil red lights on the dashes of cars around me.

There will always be people who ignore ck engine lights till they are forced to fix them

 

[AEdelheit]

:-laf Sitting in a 4x4 in stop and go traffic I see alot of lil red lights on the dashes of cars around me.

There will always be people who ignore ck engine lights till they are forced to fix them

WHAT????????????? All the fake blonds in LA in there benz convertibles dont properly maintain there vehicles???? CRAZY !!!!!! :-laf

 

[HBarlow]

Bob,

I would think there were many more interesting things to see in other cars from a tall 4x4 on LA freeways than CEL lights on dashboards.

 

[rscurtis]

You don't think that a 5 year old car, poorly maintained, will fail an emission test?

Most cars made today can run 100,000 miles without opening the hood, except for oil changes. Spark plugs can routinely last 100,000+ miles. All an emissions test will require in the future (and today) is a quick download from the OBD connection. Back in the old days of points, carburetors, chokes and cheap gas, emissions testing had a real benefit of fixing the real stinkers. I saw how some of my past employees took car of cars. Even when driven to the crusher, they still passed emissions with no problem, and one had 200,000 miles on it with almost no maintenance.

 

[HBarlow]

I agree with RSCurtis. Most new cars would probably run 100k miles without even changing engine oil and filter but in some areas the air filter might be restricting air flow. ECMs manage fuel and electronic ignitions will fire even old and dirty plugs. Many if not all newer cars now come with platinum plugs and run good at 100k.

 

[Cosmo]

You guys don't work in a dealership service department, do you? Between plastic cracking and spiders building nests in Evap hoses, there are plenty of cars out there that won't pass an emissions test but that still run just fine. O2 sensors go bad, catalytic converters get clogged or break up internally...

I see the increasingly stringent EPA requirements on a daily basis, and it's stupid how easy it is for mundane little things to **** the ECM off. It's only going to get worse.

Look at the 6. 7 Cummins for example - closed crank vent. No more nasty puke pipe dripping oily soot under your engine - it gets fed back into the turbo inlet now. There's some sort of sensor or algorithm that dictates when your Service Engine Soon warning lights up. It's supposed to be at 67,500 miles, but could be sooner if the ECM decides so.

As the EPA pushes for ZERO emissions - not zero tailpipe emissions, zero TOTAL emissions - there will be more things to test and more things to fail. Loose gas caps, cracked rollover valves, clogged vent filters, etc...


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