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I just can't seem to get started. I read a thread where EMDDIESEL said that after 911 he can't get into his hobbies. I feel the same. I am glad to see the action taken in Afghanistan, it is not filling the void.



I am a computer consultant in Manhattan. I walk by the trade center, maybe twice a week. I ride in on the bus every morning and look at where it was. In church every week I ask for parayers for the people who are "still at work".



I can't seem to shake it. I can't think of what would get me back on the road. I am in a city of people like me. I just wondered if anyone across the country feels the same.
 
Hang In There !

Acoyle,

I thing we all feel that way. My Gunsmithing business really took a hit. I think each day is a little better. Every time I see a Tallyban tank or terrorist evaporate on TV it really cheers me up. :D :D :D
 
Don, are you feeling an economic impact or just what ACoyle described? I would have thought your type of business would increase in these times.
 
My dad told me many years ago not to worry about the things you cannot change, while this is very hard to do it is in reality something that we all must do. In a sense all Americans have been effected by the 9-11 terrorist acts. I find myself in a quandry over the deal and if it werent for the news I wouldnt even know it was going on, I live thousands of miles away from any of the sites , yet I am glued to the TV and the news , I watch it starting at 4 am every morning till 5 when I go to work and its the first thing I do when I get home, My wife gets mad at me and says cant we watch something else? and I have got to say that recently my life has been trapped by the news, I do realize that it has brought my production level to a hault and I like you am in somewhat of a stand still out of it. The part that is going to be the worst is with winter comming and the cold temps I am sure I will really want to stay inside then. I am normally the type not to do much TV at all .

I dont claim to have many answers but I do know that some how we all need to get off of our arsses and resume our normal lifestyle. I f anyone else can help out on the deal please let us in on your technique. Thanks Kevin
 
Max340,

No it's not economic. (I am in to the old Buffalo Rifles) It is just very hard to strive for perfection on a part when our whole world has been turned upside down. I rarely watch TV and now watch it 2-3 hrs a day. My shopwork has suffered. It gets better each day. ;)
 
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I think it's the anticipation of waiting for the other shoe to drop. We know that it's not over, but will it affect us here, at home? Until this whole mess comes to a close, I think we will continue to live in the void that ACoyle feels.



Doc
 
I think the best solution is to just cut way back on watching the news, they have a way of making things look worse than they really are. Bad news sells. Half an hour will get you everything you need to know. I this point I just watch it for word that bin Laden has met his end, you can be sure it will only take 30 seconds for that good news.
 
Let me go out on a limb here. I figure this'll give some of you fodder to slam me, but it may help others.



First and foremost, I know people feel VERY affected by the attacks. I had friends in NYC watching events the day it happened. I will never forget the expression on Dave's face... ... to put it in perspective, Dave is 6'0" 270lbs, and spends weekends as bouncer at the bar around the corner from my house. I have seen him pick up patrons, hold them aloft and walk them out the door. He thinks nothing of poking a guy in the face if he is a problem in the bar and swings first. Usually, the opposition swings once, and Dave removes the heap.



On September 11, I saw Dave at his apartment, standing on the second floor landing. His face was blank, shocked. It was the first time I felt I had to ask him if he was going to be ok. He barely spoke and said he would be ok later. He later told me of watching people jump from the WTC. I think a number of you are feeling the same way. Reality suddenly isn't real.



I feel it when I see damage to the Pentagon, a building I have been in. I feel it when I see a skyline of NYC... it doesn't look right. I feel it driving through the Philadelphia area, particularly to my mother's place, which is close to Willow Grove NAS. It hits home because I was there as a kid for a tour, and Dad entered the Navy there. It gets too real when I see huge transport planes, and hear fighters screaming overhead.



I have taken to doing the same thing in defense now as I did when Dad died almost four years ago. After the formality of services, it became apparent that Dad had put the wrong people in charge after his death, and they came looking for the house and heirlooms that the family had possessed for over a century.



For a year, I staved off attack after attack, not wanting to take action against Dad. I visited my grandmother for Christmas after he died. She commented on the situation, giving advice as she had for 91 years. Two months later, she too was gone. Less than a year had passed, and half of my family had died.



I did well for a week. I even managed to write a decent eulogy for my grandmothers memorial service, and delivered it with a bit of composure. I came home to find that Dads appointed representatives had called even as the service went on, demanding entrance to my home. I returned the message with polite refusal. Then I sat down, and spent the next few weeks working in a haze.



Suddenly, I was missing not one, but two permanent fixtures in my life. My brain went to a three day schedule; yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Some Fridays I found out it was Friday because the boss was coming around at 430 and telling us to knock off, it was time for a beer. That only happened on Friday, so even though it felt like Tuesday, it was Friday. I had a friend of mine call me on Monday mornings to let me know this day was for work again.



On weekends, I variously stared at the three generations of stuff I now owned, and drifted off to sleep wondering how to deal with it all. I suddenly had two houses, a three car garage with a second floor, and it was all full of stuff. Yeah, full. I brought home stuff from a storage area that held 2000 cubic feet of junk. One of my cars sits outside, and my living room doesn't get used.



In the mean time, my Dad's Representatives decided to sue me. I decided I needed a lawyer, and a checkup on my sanity. I figured out I was spending too much time staring at the wreckage. I realized that if Dad could die of cancer as easily as my grandmother died of old age, I had better get out and start doing a few things. I think this is where people are getting stuck.



I forget who posted it... ... . but there was a set of stats listing the things that did NOT happen, on here a few weeks ago. One example was that 95% of the people who could have been in the WTC were NOT in the building.



I stopped mourning my grandmother. Yeah, it was sad she had died. But before that, I had 34 years of great times. I still have one helluva nice house that she insisted on giving me. Best part is, I have years of experience and knowledge that she taught me. Life is not the same as before she died, but it is not sad, bad, or terrible. Dad left me next to nothing but headaches. Sadly, I miss him only because I figure he would have liked to see the truck. He and I did not see things the same till it was too late. In his closing hours, he conceded that even though I was not following his ideals to the letter, I was doing a "fine job". But I did get an education on electrical stuff from him. And I have a decent house, even if it needs more attention than I can give it.



I gave up feeling like crap because it stopped me from living. I spent a year wondering what to do next. After I realized I had missed opportunities, I started looking at what I wanted to do in 30 years, and what stood between me and that end. The stacks of boxes got smaller, even if they are still there. I spent more time working with kids. I pick projects I want to get done, and do them. I stopped wondering why people died. I started looking at how I could push their lifetime of achievement further in my own life.



Would those that died want us to stare at the ruins everyday? Nope. Will staring at the TV make things happen faster? Not a chance. What is there left to know that will change our lives farther than September 11th? Not a thing.



Flat out, this is an exciting time to be alive. Our nation is once again showing why its the best place on earth to be. History is being written each day. The economy is slowing, but it also gives us a chance to benefit by that slowdown. These attacks have led to less divorce, more thought is put to lifetime commitments, and people are once again finding that religion is one of the stabilizing elements of life. People are working as communities again, for fund raisers, care packages, and simply having parties because we are again one nation. Flags are flying from pickup trucks, not just at shows, but all over. Not just brand loyalty, but national loyalty. We all have one thing in common again.



It sounds odd..... but rephrase the constant questions.



What did these attacks do FOR America?



What can each of us contribute, not just to the national cause, but to anyone we know closer to home?



What do you each want to do before you can't do it?



What can wait while you grab that once in a lifetime opportunity?



After all is said and done... . what went right this weekend?



I can answer the last one easily. The kids in my youth group washed cars for four hours on Saturday. They raised $465, which will be matched (up to $450) by Lutheran Brotherhood's matching donation program. All this for a 16 year old who has no medical insurance and is in need of dialysis and a new kidney. I'm doggone proud of a bunch of teenagers, and maybe, just maybe, they feel pretty good too. Life is good.
 
Max, I understand your comments very well. I lost my mother and father many years apart. . But somehow the loss of my dad first just never got out my system. I got on with life, just shut my mouth, gritted my teeth and squelched my tears and went on. I had my mother to take care of, and I had to suck it up and help keep her together.



I was on my way to federal court a few years back... In a bad twist of events, I was bankrupt, and it was a court hearing concerning the bankruptcy. The wife and I stopped at my mother's house in the way to the hearing to have her watch the littlest kids and found her in bed, after she had passed away earlier in the morning.



Even to this day, certain events after that are crystal clear, but the rest is a whole lot of fog. My boss let me have some days off work, and a good thing too. I'm sure I would have cost him a lot. Life seemed totally surreal for the next few months. I alternately withdrew and then was filled with rage at everyone. It cost me much of my children's affections. I still find it difficult to be close to anyone.



I watched the aftermath on TV and a couple of times I was grateful noone was around. The kids were in school, and the wife at work. More than once, and including the memorial service that Friday after the attack, I sat and bawled on the couch, unable to contain myself. I knew what so many people went through, I knew what my kids went through when they lost thier grandmother they so dearly loved. Those hurts just don't go away fast.



In some ways, it did things for me too. I have gained a new insight into the concept of trusting God. I realized how much I was still carrying around from the losses in my life that I never really let go of. And I realized the need of praying for each other...
 
Gentlemen, please remember the Serenity poem.



"God grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change,

the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference. "



It is very hard to get back to normal after a huge reality check, but there are others who

depend on us to help them get though those times too. Whether it be parents, friends

or complete strangers that exit our lives at unopportune times, it is what brings us all

closer together. We need to get on with our lives but keep the knowledge of tragedy

-vs-triumph and unity close to our hearts so we may share it with others who need it.



Sherry Hinson
 
Its hard.

It is hard to cope with the fact that our nation took a hit. I call it that because I have been lost in a kind of "waiting for the axe to fall"kind of mood. It all stems from my pre-winter blues I go through every year and the 9/11 crap. How I am going to pull out of my grotin-funk?I really don't know. I think this will pass to,time does heal and something like this does take time.



I believe that I also have a little post stress crap coming back from the old days to. I thought it was gone forever,but I suppose I will have to live with it again for awhile. It has never crippled me like it has others and by god it won't now!I guess I will have to start writting again. I know I feel better just telling you guys.....





We had a guy I knew in the service. The man used to ball like a baby when we were in contact. He would still function,return fire,call positions,and do anything needed. But,you would hear him sobbing on the intercom whenever in the ****. The funny thing is he was never depressed!The man had a silly grin all the time!



Maybe we all need to ball a little bit. I am just afraid that once I start I won't be able to quit!Laughing and crying are all part of life. We are all still alive... ... ... A little to touchy feely,but I suppose we all have our moments.....
 
For me the shock started the morning I was supposed to be heading into the city. Picked up the sales manager at his house, he told me to come in to see what was up with one of the towers being on fire. Sitting there for only a few minutes and we saw the other plane fly into the other tower. For sane reasons we cancealed the days appointments.



But after that our office phones were dead for a week and they hardly rang for two weeks once they were working. . companies werent making buy desicions..... Two week before 9/11, it was announced that our office was scheduled to be shut down by next summer. So were warned, but surprised since that office/factory had been their for 30 years. ( The reason was that that only and Senior board member in Corporate in favor of keeping our office open died in a fire about 1. 5 months before 9/11... He was the one reason our office was still around for the last 5 years)

Between the dramatic down turn in business, the loss of the Board member and stockmarket crash... . Corporate pulled in the closing. So 1 month just about to the day I lost my job... . 10/10

The only ones left are a couple of VPs and clerks helping to shut the place down.



In the middle of this I went for my yearly physical. . of course they found something. . last week we found that it aint all that bad (finally some good news) and by meer chance of luck one of the meds I'm on is Cipro... so I'm all set.



So want to talk about hard getting going in the AM... . It seems for three months all I heard or saw was shoes dropping. (waiting for the other shoe to drop..... I didnt have to wait. )



I thought I was in a fog before with 9/11 with fighting to keep the office or atleast my job afloat, than 9/11, than the loss of business that caused corporate to bleed money that forced the immediate layoffs... now, forget about it.

I've got 7 jobs possibilities going now, just got my 1st NO this past friday... and with how soft the market is and companies worried about further downturns in the economy... hiring is not on high in proirity for companys'. I hate to say it, but the war maybe the best thing for someone like me to get another job.



I know it all could be worse, right at this moment... my wife could be a widow, by daughter father-less... but heck with the life insurance I had. . they wouldnt have money problems.



Now I feel as if I'll wake up and all of this will have been a bad nightmare.
 
I'm fine. I'm more worried about my kids than anything else. My daughter turned 21 on Friday and my son was married this past August. They are doing well, but their world is shades more different now, even compared to mine. We all spent the weekend together and that was fun. I got to talk to them too, just about stuff, but mostly the attacks. That picture link I posted on Friday really brought it home for me again. We are living in troubling times and the enormity of the attacks permeate everywhere. When I watched Bush's speech to Congress I was overwhelmed with the significance of that speech and the setting. I've read about speeches of that magnitude, but I have never seen one delivered. Now, unfortunately, I can say I saw one.
 
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Mark, that had to be hard to remember, let alone deal with first hand. I hope things are going better now.



Sherry, I keep my own version handy. It takes into account the power man has of changing his own circumstances. The original works well, but with a grain of humor and a bit of attitude, this works as well:



God grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change,

the courage to change the things I can and the (Horsepower, Firepower, explosives) to make the difference.



CF, for years I did not get along with Christmas..... its a long story, but my parents made it miserable. Mom would get stuff and expect us to be honest about how we liked it. I told her it was great to know she cared, but that wasn't good enough, I'll skip the rest. Dad would buy as little as he could, I often got used paperbacks, or belt buckles. One year, I thought things would change, I smartmouthed him and told him I wanted a Viper, and nothing less than a black one would do. He got one, a diecast model. It sits on my mantle. I thought I had made a breakthrough, I really like that car. I told him it was the coolest thing I had seen for Christmas in a long time. Next year, I got a couple of already thumbed paperbacks. I guess the image of me reading was one he could not forget. As a result, I skipped Christmas except to visit my grandmother. I avoided Dad's girlfriends family, now I know I was right, they are the ones who still want money from me. Mom, well, thats a long story. We get along better when I can leave after an hour. I started working on things for other people, its better than staring at the tube all day.



BK, hang in there, things get better. And as you said, ya still have family. Ever thought of starting a business on your own? Maybe now is the time.



John, the reason for the speech may be a bad one, but how many can say they saw it, and had the hair on their arm stand on end? I know I can say that, I bet you and many others on here can as well. How often will we ever see a speech that epitmizes what this country is about, has the support of all people, parties, Senate, House, Cabinet? I sat in a restaurant with some friends cheering like some sports team had scored. Only this time, we all had the same colors, and no one had the dark uniforms as the visitor. (ok, maybe Hillary did... )



I hate what happened on September 11th. I am absolutely NUTS about what happened on September 12th. We are one people again. Prayer in schools is no longer an issue, but an accepted event. People are giving donations of any sort to help others. This nation is a great place to live.



I read this in a local paper today. It is a quote from Herman Melville and references the Civil War era in this country, and the problems of that time. I found it in an editorial about our nation originally published in the London Times just after September 11th that the local paper reprinted. Maybe it helps with this era as well.



There is a sobbing of the strong,

And a pall upon the land;

But the People in their weeping,

Bare the iron hand;

Beware the People weeping.
 
First I want to remember my manners. Thenk all of you who shared personal experiences in this thread. That is not easy and I appreciate it. It helps me to understand that there are others that have fealt much more personal losses that I have.



I lost no close personal frineds in the colapse. One of my problems has been defining what was lost. I have close frineds who were on the phone with their loved ones in the towers as they colapsed.



When I walk by them all I seem to be able to do is try to visualize what the people must have been feeling as they went down.



While not a native New Yorker, I have worked in the city for 12 years and have adopted it.



When I do work for other customers in the city they are all changed. The Humor and character is altered.



Thank you all for sharing.



AC
 
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