Anyone every hear of this ? Oil pipeline in WWII

[Tractorat]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv9lBqPVuoE&feature=uploademail



How we got oil to the troops in WWII.

 

[mfurrh55]

Wow, never knew that, that was pretty neat video,Monte

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Pretty amazing - since then, we've been to the Moon and back - but still can't get a pipeline to the USA from Canada...

 

[RustyJC]

HERE is another cold war era Alaska to Canada to Alaska pipeline that was built after the WW2 CANOL pipeline.



Rusty

 

[CBari]

The things that they came up with are truly amazing. Most people now days can't think out of the box well enough to come up with ideas like that.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I wonder what happened to those lines after the war?

 

[jgillott]

The things that they came up with are truly amazing. Most people now days can't think out of the box well enough to come up with ideas like that.

And if they do come up with a great idea, there's a regulation against it.

 

[Jim W]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv9lBqPVuoE&feature=uploademail

How we got oil to the troops in WWII.

Yes; that was all part of the Overlord planning, the Mulberry harbors and the Red ball express. Very interesting reading on the Second World War vets and what some of them had to endure.
Jim W.

 

[RustyJC]

Here's some interesting trivia. My father was a WW2 vet who fought against the Axis forces but was refused admission to the VFW when WW2 was over and he returned home. Rather than drag it out, he was a combat engineer stationed in Alaska and served on Adak and at Dutch Harbor, but since he fought on American territory, he was deemed ineligible for VFW membership.



Rusty

 

[Tractorat]

Here's some interesting trivia. My father was a WW2 vet who fought against the Axis forces but was refused admission to the VFW when WW2 was over and he returned home. Rather than drag it out, he was a combat engineer stationed in Alaska and served on Adak and at Dutch Harbor, but since he fought on American territory, he was deemed ineligible for VFW membership.

My dad was in the Merchant Marine. One of his ships was sunk in the north atlantic. Another ship he was on was a tanker in the south pacific (big ship full of highly flameable gasoline). When they were in port, the Red Cross (or was it the USO, I forget) would not give the merchant marine sailors any cookies or donuts like they would to navy sailors or soldiers.

Until recently, the WWII merchant marine sailors did not get veteran status (this was finally rectified a couple of years ago after many or most had died.

In WWII, the United States Merchant Marine had a casualty rate second only to the USMC. (But were not considered vets, and could not get free cookies)

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

My dad was in the Merchant Marine. One of his ships was sunk in the north atlantic. Another ship he was on was a tanker in the south pacific (big ship full of highly flameable gasoline). When they were in port, the Red Cross (or was it the USO, I forget) would not give the merchant marine sailors any cookies or donuts like they would to navy sailors or soldiers.

Until recently, the WWII merchant marine sailors did not get veteran status (this was finally rectified a couple of years ago after many or most had died.

In WWII, the United States Merchant Marine had a casualty rate second only to the USMC. (But were not considered vets, and could not get free cookies)

A lot of Merchant Marines were in that service because they couldn't get into regular service for various reasons - NOT because they didn't face many of the same dangers, or were in any way cowards. Pity they were treated as 2nd class members of the armed forces in some situations.

 

[RustyJC]

My dad was in the Merchant Marine. One of his ships was sunk in the north atlantic. Another ship he was on was a tanker in the south pacific (big ship full of highly flameable gasoline). When they were in port, the Red Cross (or was it the USO, I forget) would not give the merchant marine sailors any cookies or donuts like they would to navy sailors or soldiers.

In a related vein, my dad was adament that, based on his experiences in the service, he would not give a nickel to the Red Cross but instead supported the Salvation Army. I don't know all the details, but he stated that there was a tremendous difference in the way these two (2) organizations supported the troops in Alaska.



Rusty

 

[Tractorat]

[/QUOTE] When the war was over, he came home with lots of plans. Wrong - the Army decided he would be just fine, drafted him, and sent him to Korea. [/QUOTE]

During WWII, if you were in the merchant marine, you had 30 days after coming home from a cruise to find another ship. If you didnt, you were subject to the draft. My dad's best friend had joined the merchant marines at the same time my dad did. My dad's buddy decided to take a little break after a cruise to the south pacific (also on a tanker). He was home for (I think I remember the story of being about) 35 days. And, yes. He got drafted. But he ended up driving some kind of small boat for the army somewhere on the east coast. He was no longer in harms way. But he could get free cookies from the red cross.

 

[The patriot]

My Dad was in during Korea.
Spent 46 mo of his 48 months in at sea in a destroyer. He was however in the Atlantic fleet, so saw no combat. I dont think he got any cookies either.

 

[Tractorat]

The red cross would have given him cookies

 

[DJW]

Its claimed the US forces on the UK during ww2 had to pay for what they had at the American red cross canteens, simply because the British forces had to pay at the Salvation Army canteens, (we called them 'Sally-Bash', from the SA Band) It was pointed out that only American Forces were allowed in the American Red Cross canteens, so it should be free as in the States. I never heard if it was changed. British soldiers pay for everything, if killed in action, have to pay for the blanket you are buried in. A friend fought at Arnhem he was in field artillery, landed in glider. They fought until out of shells, then fought with their rifles, had to search for ammo off dead soldiers, finally captured, when released and returned to camp, found they had to pay for their personal equipment they were issued with. No such thing as a Free Lunch, or anything else.

 

[Tractorat]

DJW, Im not sure you got the point

 

[DJW]

Tractorat, re. 'I'm not sure you got the point". Can you be more specific? Of what point. Explain.

 

[Tractorat]

It was just a rant about how the American (now considered military with vet status) service that had the highest casualty rate of any of the American military branches durring WWII, (and btw was the service that delivered the food, weapons, medical supplies, ammo, etc to England) was shunned and discriminated against by the red cross.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

This has some interesting facts about American merchant mariners:

http://www.usmm.org/casualty.html

Interesting stats there - looks like the MM was the hardest hit service - maybe because they carried the most sensitive materials and provided the most critical services, yet were the most poorly protected?