Anyone installed this hydrogen system?

[DFrank]

Nelsons Hydro-Gen home page



I haven't been on here much lately, but I did do a search that brought up a bunch of skepticism, but didn't see any actual products. This one makes soem pretty bold claims foe $895.



Dave

 

[fourwheel1]

Have you tried them or are you just saying they don't work???

 

[BLarkman]

I would have a concern about the cost, as the one I built using six canning jars and adding baking soda,distilled water doesn't seem to justify the the price of 895. I spent nomore then $60 and did it myself. I looked at their site and did not see much different then what I have.

bob

 

[CKelley1]

we install water purification systems for towns, when these generators came on the market several were brought to us to test because of the similarities of how they work . the miox and chlortec brand disinfection systems produce chlorine compounds and hydrogen that we vent to air. it is easy for us to connect a generator up in our lab and test. the generator uses more energy from the motor than the energy it produces. common sense will also tell you this with out a huge lab. here is what you do just hook a 12v battery up to a charger, fully charge and leave the charger hooked up turn on the generator and observe the current draw of the generator, now observe the volume of gas and think about how much air go's through the turbo at 65mph, it does about as much good as urinating in an olympic swimming pool to raise the level you can not reload with beer fast enough to over come the evaporative loss let alone raise the level. one of the people still wanted us to check it on the truck he still could not believe he was fleeced out of $900 we were running test on improving mileage in our 06's and we hooked one of them up to the truck the truck was set up on a dyno speed at 65mph, load set at 77 hp and a 36" high clear tube with about one gallon of diesel would be switched in after 5 minutes time and ran for 10 miles, the next run the generator was turned on and compared. there was a small but measurable loss in mpg with the generator

 

[BLarkman]

OK it doesn't work , the fact that I only used 19 vs 26 gals to drive the same disance is a figament of my imagination and the bill for fuel was not important. I looked into it, built a unit and installed it. I towed a 34' montana to Yuma from Lebanon Or drove 1805 miles using 145 gals of fuel vs 1258 miles, using 129. 5 gals weighing over 20,000# means zip. Beleive what u wish I will just smile!!

bob

 

[fourwheel1]

Its not supposed to run a engine on hydrogen 100%. Its helps it run more efficiently, so it does not take a huge amount. Not sure why some people tallk it down saying its too good to be true, keep it in perspective, it helps make it more efficient, its not a fuel replacement..... just leaves more water to burn for us!!

 

[BLarkman]

IMHO it is simple, it does work, so why do you not build or buy it?? Why make all the silly posts. I realize that when I talk about the "water for gas" 50% of the people will not accept the concept and just smile and shake their head. OK fine, but making the posts about how dumb, or it cannot not work really makes me shake my head. Why has not someone made or bought one and proven that it is impossible to work.

bob

 

[brods]

Its not supposed to run a engine on hydrogen 100%. Its helps it run more efficiently, so it does not take a huge amount. Not sure why some people tallk it down saying its too good to be true, keep it in perspective, it helps make it more efficient, its not a fuel replacement..... just leaves more water to burn for us!!

Why? Because of the websites that promote unbelievable mpg gains or the total wackjobs that promote running a car on only water.



While I'm open to the idea that H2 may improve combustion somehow and could believe modest single digit mpg gains (similar to what advancing the timing does), the proof is just not there yet.



Sorry Bob, while I don't doubt you are getting better mpg there might be several reasons for that. The issue will never be settled until several people can show over many tanks of fuel, running in the same conditions, a clear difference between running with H2 and without.



Ideal would be to experiment on a truck that sees the same usage day after day and run the H2 every other tank without the driver's knowledge. Then compare the average mpg of the H2 to the regular mpg.