anyone running veggie oil?

[KSommer]

i'm sick of having to pay for fuel, $2. 50/ gal at last fillup some friends have a restaurant with great food, free fuel for me, i just want to hear from someone who uses the stuff too.

kent

 

[Headshot zod]

I'm running about 40% wvo since it warmed up around here. There are lots of kits out there. I was looking at the www.greasel.com ones but it looks like I'll be getting the kit made from www.Frybrid.com. I just scored a wvo supply at a local restaurant for 30-50 gallons a week. So I officially have more fuel then I could possibly use.

 

[Don in Missouri]

I'm anxious to try it, and fully intend to do it soon.

 

[JFaughn]

There are a lot of good and bad sites out there , check this one they used the 5. 9 engines as test beds. Biodiesel-Biofuels Research

 

[CGauthier]

Lol I couldn't see myself using frying oil in the winter here

 

[Headshot zod]

why not ... ... once your fuels lines are heated it really isn't a problem.

 

[EdwardStokes]

I just installed the Voyager 50 gallon kit from Greasel on my W250 and am very satisfied. The exhaust smells great, and runs just the same as if it was diesel. I start the truck on the stock diesel system to warm the the vegitable oil and after 5 min. I flip a switch to burn vegitable oil. Five min. before I shutdown I switch back to diesel to clear fuel filter and injection system. The 50 gallon tank with side mounted filter only takes up 10 inches of bed space. The kit is very easy to install with simple hand tools. This weekend I am going to find an eggroll house and tap free fuel. I'll post pictures as soon as I can.

 

[1stgen4evr]

Waste vegetable oil

Anyone have a thought about the salt content of waste oil. I can see the possibility of serious problems there.



James

 

[TimBrunett]

No Greasel in a VP44

The Greasel web site says that they cant convert a VP44 DC to greasel. Is that still the case? Has anybody figured out a work around?
I was all set to do it cause I can get fried chicken grease pretty easy. Isn't that just my luck. Rats.

 

[JFaughn]

Seems to me the salt is added later, I,ve gone to a lot of web sites & books and salt is never mentioned, and most everybody I know that have restrants do'nt add salt before deep fring. now that I think of it there would be some in the batter , but still with the prossing that there doing , I don't here or read about salt and most of what I'm looking at are university studies with long term and tairdown by commins.

 

[Greenleaf]

I wish you guys luck. Just as soon as the government/special interest groups/a smart aleck Politician find out about this... . it's history.



The bottom line; Uncle Sam is loosing some big $$$



-S

 

[Headshot zod]

Seems to me the salt is added later, I,ve gone to a lot of web sites & books and salt is never mentioned, and most everybody I know that have restrants do'nt add salt before deep fring. now that I think of it there would be some in the batter , but still with the prossing that there doing , I don't here or read about salt and most of what I'm looking at are university studies with long term and tairdown by commins.

Well I'll assume that the salt doesn't have any affect on the chemical reaction of making biodiesel. So what ever salt was there in the beginning is there in the end of the reaction. Some people "wash" their biodiesel at the end to get any additional methanol out of the mixture. Since salt dissolves in water I guess you could wash it out. The same would be true with waste veggie oil. You probably could wash it the same way and get all of the solubles out of the oil. As long as you don't emulsify the water and oil you should be ok. They have filters for straining the water out of your fuel before it hits your tank if your still worried about the H20.

 

[AUrban]

There's a guy up on the frybrid forums that converted is 2nd gen 24V to run on WVO and he said he's pumped through around 10k miles. I think he said he used a dedicated pump for the WVO and didn't use the stock lift pump. That makes sense. I gotta wonder how long the VP44 would last when you are pushing 160 degree oil through it...



So, if you bypassed the lift pump, would you also bypass the stock fuel filter... use one for WVO only and then somehow plumb that to the VP44? It would be pretty easy to switch between VO and diesel then. Just thinking outloud.

 

[TimBrunett]

Half diesel/half WVO

It seems from what I'm hearing that running 100% SVO requires heating and thats what is killing VP's. I was told by Charles at Greasel that I could run about half WVO with diesel and would not have to heat it so the VP would theoretically be safe. I wonder how half & half would effect the lift pump? Would I need a pusher? And I guess I would have to change the fuel filter sooner too. He also said that all WVO is not the same. Any experiences yall can share?.

TB

 

[1stgen4evr]

salt

" Well I'll assume that the salt doesn't have any affect on the chemical reaction of making biodiesel. So what ever salt was there in the beginning is there in the end of the reaction. Some people "wash" their biodiesel at the end to get any additional methanol out of the mixture. Since salt dissolves in water I guess you could wash it out. The same would be true with waste veggie oil. "



The reason I ask about the salt is that salt is NaCl or sodium cloride. Salt is some what benign in most reactions but I have to wonder what it will do in the presence of somewhat elevated heat along with water content. It could wind up being hydrocloric acid, and that stuff sure as heck isn't benign.



I suspect that the studies have been conducted with new oil and I fall back on the advise offered in the Bible; be not the first nor the last. I won't be the last.



James

 

[Headshot zod]

He also said that all WVO is not the same. Any experiences yall can share?.



TB

When it comes to WVO. There was a reference somewhere in the Frybrid forums about partially hydrogenated vegetable oils and non-hydrogenated vegetable oils. The partially hydrogenated ones gell at much higher temperatures. And this is the big difference in the kits. The frybrid one has a "fuel line in a coolant hose" in the engine compartment. So your fuel is heated a second time to coolant temperature just before it hits your IP. This is critical. If you have another company's kit you can just buy the "HOSE IN HOSE" and be on the safe side. With the hose in hose you burn almost any kind of veggie oil.



It might be a pricey expenditure. But I'm also thinking that Artic Fox heated fuel lines should be used all the way around if you live in a cold climate. Maybe a webasto coolant heater too. If you drive lots of miles and have lots of veggie oil, I think the additional cost will save you sanity on the morning that you forgot to purge the system and now its solid.

 

[TimBrunett]

50/50 WVO/diesel with no mods-Will it work?

Is it OK to add WVO direct to the fuel tank with a 50/50 dilusion of diesel? Will they mix well enough in the tank from all the motion of driving? I haven't tried this yet and I won't until I get some opinions on it but I was told that I could run 40-50% WVO with no other mods. That would be easy enough to do, if it will work without an damage. Thanks for any info.

TB

 

[SHobbs]

Been running B20 for 2 months now with no problems. I will be going to B50 as soon as the pump is put in. I have a thread in the 2nd gen forum on my experience with the fuel filter change, it is true what they say this stuff will clean your fuel system. Darn filter was dirty.

Check out DFWBiodiesel.com they have some great info on their site. That is where I am getting the fuel from and the best part is they use cottonseed oil and part my dollars to the farmers here in Texas.

So far my mileage has stayed he same, engine is quieter, exhaust does smell different and it feels like the truck is more responsive.

 

[Headshot zod]

Last year from Labor Day to Thanksgiving I ran B100. I had one nasty clogged filter. Somewhere here there is a pic of it. For the past 2. 5 months I've been running 50/50 biodiesel/wvo and 50/50 petrodiesel/wvo. depending on whether or not I had the time (mandatory OT) to pick up a drum of B100. When I pull the injectors I'll post a pick of them and see if the are scrwed up or not. Speeding w/AC on and 1 passenger I'm getting 19-20 mpg.