Anyone using Bio Diesel in 08 6.7s

[SHansert]

I have ordered a New 2500 Laramie 4x4 Quad Cab 6. 7 with the 3. 73 rear end and I have a 1995 Laramie with the 5. 9 in it and it has 400867 miles on it. All I have used in it the last three years is Bio diesel and it makes it run 80% better and I all have a excavatings bussiness and I use it in all my equitment like my 2007 JD Backhoe AND IT RUNS GREAT. But with the new Bluetec System I am just wondering if I can run it in my new 6. 7 . I know alot of poeple don,t have it but I do were I live. Thanks for any help !!

 

[sag2]

B5 is all that is recommended with the stock filter set up. Fleet vehicles are approved to run B20 if they have dual filtering, because the large fleets tend to have better control over their fuel source and storage.

 

[Cryotek]

I ran 11% Bio from the FS in my 5. 9 with 77K miles without any issues. I haved used FS BIO 11% for the first 2270 miles of my new 08 6. 7. No issues. 11% of the fuel came from my friends fields, in America(illinois).

 

[WMoroni]

I've been running B20 in my 07 5. 9 since day one. Zero problems. I used all the way up to a B75 in my 05. Started getting worse mileage after B30, however, it was still better than straight #2. But anyway I'm going to try the B20 in my wifes new truck some time this week. I can't see any reason it could hurt anything as long as its mixed with ULSD.

 

[sag2]

I suggest you take a peek at the owners manual. That way you won't be surprised if you ruin the fuel system and they deny you warranty coverage. You can do what you want, but it is generally better to make an informed decision.

 

[WMoroni]

The trucks are approved to run B20, if it is a fleet or goverment vehicle. When I had my 05 the dealer flashed it to do something to the WIF sensor. They didn't do anything to the fuel filter. Couldn't tell they did anything but I watched the tech do it so I know he updated the ecm.



Anything B20 and under you most likey can't tell if its bio or not and neither can your fuel system. Higher than that and things start to get sticky. Literally.

 

[kbond]

has anyone run home brew 100 bio yet for any length of time?

 

[sag2]

I ran into a service manager this week at a community event and he said they had one towed in a couple weeks ago that had Bio in it and the injectors were ruined. The customer towed it out when they said it was not warranty.

 

[WMoroni]

I ran into a service manager this week at a community event and he said they had one towed in a couple weeks ago that had Bio in it and the injectors were ruined. The customer towed it out when they said it was not warranty.

As negative as you are on this subject you either own stock in an oil company or are one of those people whom believe that bio fuels caused the price increase in food commodities.



Bio won't ruin injectors, however, water will. Bio attracts water, the higher the percentage the worse it does. Properly blended and filtered it should have no negatives.

 

[sag2]

As negative as you are on this subject you either own stock in an oil company or are one of those people whom believe that bio fuels caused the price increase in food commodities.



Bio won't ruin injectors, however, water will. Bio attracts water, the higher the percentage the worse it does. Properly blended and filtered it should have no negatives.

I'm not negative at all on Bio. If you read some of my other posts you will see that I stress the importance of proper filtering and fuel quality when running Bio. And your right, Bio in itself is not the problem, it is a very good solvent and carries all the accumulated junk through the system and ruins it. The trouble is when people run it without adding the proper filtering equipment and ruin something. The first thing they do is say the truck is a POS when the truck had nothing to do with it. And the warranty is not going to cover the repairs, so you better be armed with some knowledge before you jump on the wagon.

And matter of fact I do own Chevron and Exxon stock and have made a very nice profit on it. As soon as some of these up and coming Bio companies get established and go public I might look at them as well.

 

[navyramman]

I ran B-11 ULSD In my 03 and now in my 07. 5 with the 6. 7. ALL THE TIME. I ONLY get my fuel from me. I haul fuel and I buy it from the CO. I haul for. So I know what I am getting. We run it year round, brother in his 05 ford 6. 0, dad in his 04 dodge 5. 9 and wife in her 3. 0 jeep, We have tanks ( one 150 gal and one 120 gal ) we can put in the pickups and go just about any where. I change the fuel filters everytime I change oil. This is the only way someone can say they only get ULSD for there auto's. You never know what you are getting at a gas station, I know I haul a lot of stuff to them and they get what ever is cheap at the time and B11 in IL is 0. 13 cheaper per gal then anything else out there. NO sales tax, but the station will not tell you that it is B11. he just puts it in his pocket. If you get your fuel in IL, you maybe burning B11 and don't even know it. and can't tell.

 

[DunnC]

I am running B20 in my 6. 7L with no problems at 22,000 miles on the clock.

 

[PaulBarker]

Bio won't ruin injectors, however, water will. Bio attracts water, the higher the percentage the worse it does. Properly blended and filtered it should have no negatives.

You nailed it on the head. Its why DC dont recommend 100%. If you can be certain that it is clean and water free you will be fine.



Thats why people dont like it, if they do not understand and or can not be certain of its purity they frown on it. than the blah blah blah you will void your warranty and die.

 

[PaulBarker]

i would make it but i am lazy, also i dont know where they sell it on the west side of houston

 

[Wolfy]

Reasonable caution?

Thats why people dont like it, if they ... [CAN NOT BE CERTAIN OF ITS PURITY] they frown on it. than the blah blah blah you will void your warranty and die.

Given the (forewarned by the owner's manual)possibility that your engine, not you, may "die", outside of warranty, ... then the "uncertainty" seems a completely valid reason to frown on it.



Seems to me very few people are in a position to be sure of the "purity" of bio(or anything else) they buy on the road,... particularly cross-country travelers.



Until the situation becomes one where bio is reliably pure and consistent, it's ULSD all the way for me. I can't see how the increased risk is worth it for the average non petroleum-insider guy.



I prefer that my bed be full of camper, fuel or other cargo,... not a bank of fuel filters.

 

[Wolfy]

As negative as you are on this subject you either own stock in an oil company or are one of those people whom believe that bio fuels caused the price increase in food commodities.



Bio won't ruin injectors, however, water will. Bio attracts water, the higher the percentage the worse it does. Properly blended and filtered it should have no negatives.

I didn't read any negativity in sag2's post:



[[ " I ran into a service manager this week at a community event and he said they had one towed in a couple weeks ago that had Bio in it and the injectors were ruined. The customer towed it out when they said it was not warranty. "]]



That sounds like a straightforward report-of-a-report to me.



As to the original report's accuracy, ... that will have to be assessed with the same care with which one considers anything posted in any forum.

 

[WMoroni]

I'm not negative at all on Bio. If you read some of my other posts you will see that I stress the importance of proper filtering and fuel quality when running Bio. And your right, Bio in itself is not the problem, it is a very good solvent and carries all the accumulated junk through the system and ruins it. The trouble is when people run it without adding the proper filtering equipment and ruin something. The first thing they do is say the truck is a POS when the truck had nothing to do with it. And the warranty is not going to cover the repairs, so you better be armed with some knowledge before you jump on the wagon.

And matter of fact I do own Chevron and Exxon stock and have made a very nice profit on it. As soon as some of these up and coming Bio companies get established and go public I might look at them as well.

I was in a pretty grumpy mood the other day. Thanks for the clarification on your opinion. Being properly informed of all the negatives and positives is one of the keys to making any decision, including using bio. I shoudn't have bashed you personally about your comments.

 

[mrrealmcc]

Here is what Cummins has to say: http://www.everytime.cummins.com/every/customer/faq_biodiesel.jspe. .

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

has anyone run home brew 100 bio yet for any length of time?

On NW Bombers there was a thread about injectors being destroyed by biodiesel but what basically happens is if it's not made properly, particularly when it comes to washing the fuel, the high pressure of the injection system actually changes the physical properties of the fuel (polymerization) turning it into a soft plastic substance, gumming everything up. Take a look at Post 52 here Running Biofuel? - BOMBER Board

 

[Cattletrkr]

IIRC that thread isn't really bashing BIODIESEL but WVO or some homebrew instead.