anyone using veggie oil

[roverhybrids]

Rover - thanks for being the guinea pig who tries this first Nice looking setup!



Now I know svo is certainly cheaper for you, but how do you feel about the poisonous emissions it causes when burned, and have you inspected your injectors or IP internals yet? I guess 4k isn't much.

do you have a link to a source for these poisonous emissions?

I've heard very little about some gases that can come from burning glycerin in a kitchen but never seen any test for burning SVO in a vehicle aside from comparisions with dino diesel and biodiesel; in which most cases the SVO was usually cleaner in the areas tested. Any fuel will have its negatives and positives. Just as biodiesel is not the perfect fuel, neither is SVO. I think both are better than dino diesel.



I have not checked my injectors or IP yet. The truck runs very well. I don't imagine I'll check the IP until there is a problem with it.

I think I'll pull the injectors at 5000 SVO miles to have a look.

 

[fox]

What do you do with all of the glycerin that is produced in the process.



I have really though about making it in a large way, but don't know what I'd do with the Glycerin by-product.

The gycerine can be converted to soap, by a similar process. It can also be used as a degreaser for auto shops.

 

[AUrban]

I buy biodiesel (I believe it's B10) at a pump in Bensenville, IL. It's made/marketed by Bell Fuels. It's more expensive than regular diesel (last time I filled up it was $2. 70/gallon compared to $2. 50/gallon for regular diesel). So, I suppose it's totally about choice and where you want your dollars to end up... in big oil or in big ag. I like the idea that my dollars stay somewhat local and (hopefully) end up in a farmer's pocket.



I ran this bio for most of last winter too... no problems at all. It does seem to be a fairly mild blend of bio though. I've never run anything over B10 in my engine... not by choice really. I've never been able to find a pump or producer that has a higher blend of biodiesel.

 

[LightmanE300]

I've never run anything over B10 in my engine... not by choice really. QUOTE]



Bensenville dispenses b20, not b10, unless something very recently changed. There have been talks on and off about questionable fuel quality there, although Cummins trucks aren't as picky about fuel quality as other diesels, like vw tdi's. Have you tried contacting the station to see if they will sell bulk b100? There are TONS of biodiesel outlets and distributors in IL, almost more than any other state... www.biodiesel.org and you can find it if you like. .

 

[AUrban]

Bensenville dispenses b20, not b10, unless something very recently changed. There have been talks on and off about questionable fuel quality there, although Cummins trucks aren't as picky about fuel quality as other diesels, like vw tdi's. Have you tried contacting the station to see if they will sell bulk b100? There are TONS of biodiesel outlets and distributors in IL, almost more than any other state... www.biodiesel.org and you can find it if you like. .

I likely meant B20 instead of B10. I don't honestly remember... I don't have to fill up very often since it's been hot and dry outside (which means I ride my motorcycle alot more than drive my truck). As for fuel quality, I have no idea. I haven't had any problems but that may be due to the Cummins not being picky, as you say. I haven't tried to contact any other dealers for Biodiesel... this one is the closest to me that I'd found on biodiesel.org. So, I go there. I haven't checked the site in a while though... .

 

[Tinman]

I am very interested in this subject and have done a good bit of research. I would like to use SVO but my 2nd gen vp44 wouldn't do it. (The necessary fuel temp will cook the electronics according to the greasel guys). Obviously, running svo in a CR system is experimental and although a few have done it successfully, no one knows the long term consequences. I have come across some concerns that make me worry about more than just the potential harm to the fuel system. The higher viscosity of svo (even at proper temps from a two tank system) can cause the fuel droplets to travel further from the injector in the combustion chamber and burn closer to the piston top causing a heat problem. Further, the fuel drops may spray onto the cylinder wall and not only get around the piston and into the lube oil (not good), it may ignite between the piston and cylinder (also not good). These are just theory I suppose but the point is running svo may risk your entire engine not just the fuel system. That's a little tough to swallow for a nice new CR Cummins



The emissions is also an interesting question. SVO and biodiesel both do better that dino diesel for regulated emissions expect NO. They both produce a little more NO but this can be minimized by retarding timing. The concern lightman e 300 raised was with non-regulated emission. I think he was referring to acrolein (?? spelling) This is a by product of the combustion of glycerin at relatively low temps. I haven't been able to find anything yet that says this is a by product of svo from a combustion engine, so I don't know if this is a real emission issue. Need more info on this. Biodiesel doesn't have this issue because there is no glycerin. I may be off base on some of this, but these are some issues I've run across in my information gathering.



I am not real thrilled with the idea of making my own biodiesel but that is safer that running svo on a CRD and causing catastrophic engine problems. I commend you guys that are doing it. Keep us posted. I may join your ranks in the future.

 

[Blakers]

What do you do with all of the glycerin that is produced in the process.



I have really though about making it in a large way, but don't know what I'd do with the Glycerin by-product.

The plant I work at makes glycerin and the price has been falling rapidly since all the biodiesel production. Glycerin is a sweetener and is used in many different things from soaps to toothpaste. I think they make AstroGlide from it too. There's probably hundreds of uses for it. It will burn too and we might start burning it in our boilers if the price drops enough. BTW, it is water soluble.

 

[Blakers]

Crude Oil

Another alternative to save a little money... . A friend of mine has a friend who is burning straight Pennsylvania crude oil in his CTD (12 valve I think) with great success. My friend is going to start running it in his. No tax and it's not red.