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That truck and those photos have been out for at least a year, perhaps longer. It's pretty doubtful it will ever be produced although I think lots of folks would buy it if Ram built it.
 
It must have been a slow month at "Truck Trend" with no Ford or GM advertising copy to publish as news, needed to fill the pages, and decided to print old news about a Ram.



Bill
 
I told the marketing people they had to include this gauge pod as standard equipment on a CTD at the very least. ;)



Mike. :)
 
And I don't think a hotshot hauler would want such a long and heavy truck.



I'd buy a 4500/5500 CrewCab Long Bed Dually with a pickup box if it was the same size as my 2011. Better for hauling my camper, but I'm not going to get something 4 feet longer. Because I still need to drive my truck to work and around town.
 
IIRC, the target for this truck was not necessarily hot shot haulers but more private owners like race car teams where they are going long distances between races and need to haul families/crew members and large heavy race trailers and equipment. Many of my friends in a former life would have killed for this truck for just that purpose. Many bought a used MDT because a 1 ton dually was just a little too small but then still had to take another vehicle for family and crew. The Ford 650 was a very popular tow vehicle in this crowd as the alternative to a MDT but was very costly.
Maybe Harvey could shed some light on the economics of commercial hauling and how much you can spend on a truck and still make a profit. I would GUESS that if a 3500 Laramie with all the bells and whistles is around 57K, this truck with air ride, 19. 5's etc is going to be over 70K. Seems like the added expense would drastically cut into profit unless you were able to take loads that regular trucks couldn't haul and get more money for each load.
I have to say, I think I'd still order one if they came out because it would tow the trailer very well but also just for the COOL factor to say you got the most bad @$$ truck ever made.
 
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And I don't think a hotshot hauler would want such a long and heavy truck.



I'd buy a 4500/5500 CrewCab Long Bed Dually with a pickup box if it was the same size as my 2011.



Yep, that's what i'm waiting on... . a F450 size Ram truck with a crew cab and long pickup box with the GVWR of a 4500 C&C and without the cobbled together look of the Hauler. The gap on the Hauler between the cab and pickup box would look very odd with a slide-in truck camper loaded in the truck bed.



Bill
 
I don't think that hauler is more than a few inches longer than the ordinary pickup unless that is the long wheelbase version of the C&C. Part of the reason for the cobbled bed section is the different frame size and shape of a C&C and the different location of the rear axle assembly. The added section in the front of the bed is not more than about 8" or 10", that's not much longer.

Wertles you were correct in questioning the validity of a fancy $70k truck for commercial hauling. The money is not there. Trucking for owner operators is a big risk for little return. Many of them go broke. Many RV transporters go broke unless they are driving Dodges with Cummins engines. If they know what they are doing, manage their loads, and carefully maintain their trucks keeping their expenses under control they can earn a modest living.

When I was transporting my good friend Bill Stockard pointed out to me, correctly, that trucking, of any kind, is one step forward then two steps back. There is no money in it.

I figured I was selling the value of a nice new Dodge Ram to the transport company I was leased to for about $1/mile and earning little to nothing for my time and work.

I transported for two years and nine months, ran 400k miles, and earned a gross income of about $225,000. That sounds like a hell of a lot of money, right? It does until you subtract expenses. My net income was about $35k or $40k/year if I didn't count the cost of buying and wearing out a good truck.

In my case it was a very valuable endeavor. I had income from other sources, my wife has a good job, and we had rental income coming in. Every dollar I earned transporting went straight home to my wife and she paid off mortgages on several rental properties I had bought on a shoe string. I paid all expenses out of other income so transporting was extra. The additional income from transporting put us way ahead financially. And it was a lot of fun. Every load, every trip was a new adventure and I enjoyed every day of it but would I go back and do it again? No.
 
Harvey, you forgot that the mega cab adds 18 inches to the length of the truck plus the aux fuel tank. It is probably 2 to 2. 5 feet longer than the regular crew cab dually. Thanks for insight on how to make (or not make) a living hauling stuff around.
 
i drove a 315 inch wheelbase kw with 110 inch dbl eagle sleeper coast to coast for years and after short time you learn to adapt to longer wheelbase. your just more aware of what you turn into before you turn into it. lotta people driving hondas think crew cab 3500 is humongus and impossible to get around with.
 
I wouldn't mind haven one of them. I might have to opt for a different color though. I agree, a prson could get used to the length. What about the big lowered semis with a 53 ft trailer?:D
 
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