B1 on a 12 valve?

[SRT-6]

Has anyone ran a B1 on a 12 valve yet? Just curious.

 

[Strick-9]

No, but I'd like to.



-Chris

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

Call Kurt and see what he has to say. . 505 534 0434



I know there is none better for a 24V.

 

[Pthomas]

Choke!

did some thinking here. the B1 may spool nice with the 12cm but after 2500rpm and full fuel from the cummins 12v P7100 the 12cm just may not be big enough even with a 4"outlet.

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

the B1 doesn't use a 12 cm housing. . Follow the link in my sig. . Its huge.

 

[HEMI®Dart]

I may buy one in the next few months. I still have a stock HX-40 thats on borrowed time.



My heart says B-1, but my wallet says Piers HX-40



Mark, Our trucks are within 2. 1 RWHP of each other.

 

[csutton7]

the outlet on the B1 is 4. 5"... ... chris

 

[Don M]

After looking at the housing on the B-1 in Marks photos it appears to be close in internal size as the 12 Holset housing.

Course, this is picture Im going by. Someone ask Kurt what it is.

He can prolly tell ya that much without havin to kill ya



Don~

 

[Cummins Corvette]

Kurt said that it "might" be something between a 12 and a 14cm, but will out flow the 14 by a large margin. Sort of like a 12cm for an hx40 out flows the 12 for the 35.

 

[Don M]

Originally posted by CAnderson

Kurt said that it "might" be something between a 12 and a 14cm, but will out flow the 14 by a large margin. Sort of like a 12cm for an hx40 out flows the 12 for the 35.

Hi Chris,



can you 'splain' that to me? The part about the 40 and 35 housings flowing more... I dont understand.

I do know the B-1 is droppin EGT's for guys as reported



Don~

 

[Cummins Corvette]

I "think" it is from the greater diameter of the nozzle around the turbine. I thought that the 12cm and other such ratings were based on area, thus the cm (squared) rating. Apparently some are equating it to width instead, so anything with a greater diameter turbine actually has a greater area for the exhaust gas to pass through, therefore the greater flow.

 

[Forrest]

If the B-1 holds up ... well ... more of the kids inheritance is history. Like Don said, EGT is WAY down. I think spool up is better than the stock HX40. I think the B-1 will handle the 0 plate & beg for more. I think we'd be pushing 500hp Don. :--)

 

[HVAC]

Comparisons

On the monster 12v trucks I am installing twins. This is to combat the 2K egt's.



For normal trucks the B1 is more bang for the buck. It's much simpler too.



Forget about trying to compare the B1 to a Holset.

The housings are not rated the same and they damn sure don't perform the same. For one thing, the B1 is dual wastegated, the Holset is only wastegating the back three barrells. Can you say blown head gasket???



Don't even try to compare the B1 to a Holset, it doesn't.

 

[Cummins Corvette]

Re: Comparisons

Originally posted by HVAC

For one thing, the B1 is dual wastegated, the Holset is only wastegating the back three barrells. Can you say blown head gasket???

What the heck do you mean "back three barrels"?

 

[drawson]

Chris, What HVAC is talking about is on a HX-40 the waste gate is only on the ports that come from the last three cylinders, the front cylinder don't have any means to get rid of the excess boost.



Even with my waste gate set at 38 PSI, I have seen 42 PSI under full throttle playing with other kids (truck car what ever I come acrossed)



Piers is working on a dual wastegated housing. He'll keep me in the power:--) :--)

 

[Don M]

Dee is right on.



Don~

 

[Brandon]

mmmmmmmmmm twins... ..... nowell I think you are right..... only thing to kill egts on a 12v is gonna be twins

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

The B1 mat not slay the EGTs but it sue will cut them off at the knees.



Great turbo. . try it.

 

[rubberneck]

Originally posted by Mark_Kendrick

The B1 mat not slay the EGTs but it sue will cut them off at the knees.



Great turbo. . try it.

Mark I love my B1, and would recomend it to anyone with a "normal" truck, then there are the trucks like Brandons "smokey". Even with the h2e and big ol exhaust housing, egt's go up like the tach. Nope, gonna take more than one hairdryer to even cut it off at the knees on that baby. the only cure will be boost, lots and lots of compounded boost.

 

[BPINE]

Some day we will know how the B-1 works on a 12 valver I am just not sure when I can put together some good data when it happens.