Beat by a Duramax!

[BIG BOB]

Last night I got beat by a Duramax from a stop till about 40 mph. :{It was on a city street so when he started pulling me I backed off. I hope Edge comes out with there Attitude pretty soon!

 

[Jeremiah]

Beat in which category?

Tell the Duro guy to meet you a few hundred thousand miles from now and you'll run him again. You'll be there; he won't.

 

[Steve M]

A V8 is typically faster off the line coupled with the very low 1st gear ratio of the Allison, it's not surprising. I wouldn't sweat it. We have what I believe to be the best engine in any production pickup truck on the planet. If it does cause you heart palpitations and cold sweats, tire smoking fun is a fuel box away.

My stock SO isn't the fastest. But for a 7200 lb truck, it IS fast. I got some smoke off the tires last week just playing. It'll reach 70mph in short order and tows our 5th wheel at what ever speed I desire. I'm happy with it...

 

[Jeremiah]

Need 100 extra HP

I read somewhere on this forum that it takes 100 extra ponies under the hood for a 6-speed to keep up with an automatic off the line, all other things being equal. I would agree with that, although I still like my 6-speed and the mileage I get w/it.



All you need to wax that Duro is an Edge/Quadzilla/Banks/TST box under the hood.

 

[Bertram65]

My buddy has a stock LB7 Duramax in a 4X4 dooley, getting on the highway from a dead stop it is very impressive, the allison shifts so smoothly you would not know it was shifting if you could not hear the change in RPM. Compared to my truck it is very fast, but I like the CTD and cab better on the Dodge.

 

[fox]

Originally posted by Bertram65

My buddy has a stock LB7 Duramax in a 4X4 dooley, getting on the highway from a dead stop it is very impressive, the allison shifts so smoothly you would not know it was shifting if you could not hear the change in RPM. Compared to my truck it is very fast, but I like the CTD and cab better on the Dodge.

This is why trans fail!!!

To get a shift that can not be felt you must slip the clutches!!

Unles of course, the tires lose traction.

 

[gsbrockman]

Arrange a race when his odometer is in the 60K to 80K mile range. His 2nd head gasket set should be installed by then. :-laf :-laf :-laf

Greg

 

[GFritsch]

Throw in a hill or a load



Bye Bye Dura max

 

[nwjetboat]

When I bought the CTD I was testing it and a Duramax pulling a 6500lb boat. I ran the same course, including a stoplight to speed test and our "Local" test hill. Pulling the boat the CTD was 5mph faster at the top. On the stoplight test, the Durmax pulled the boat to 55mph, the CTD could not complete the test. When the tach hit 1800 both rear tires went up in smoke. Thats with 280lb of tongue weigh.

 

[CajunDieselMan]

Remember that the big rigs aren't fast either, but that's not what they're built for. I realize my CTD 3500 would probably lose a race to a V-8 diesel--especially since I have a 6-speed and 4. 10 rear end. One day, however, I STOMPED a Powerstroke when both of us were side by side at a stop light and both had a 5th wheel on the back. By the time I hit 6th gear, I had enough room to pull over in front of him. These Cummins engines get MEAN when you load them down.

 

[KBertetto]

Yup, throw 10k behind the trucks and see what happens:-laf

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Bob do you think he was chipped? Since you're still stock power and a heavier truck I wouldn't feel too bad about it

 

[Tony T.]

Had a chance to buy a 2002 Duramax from a co-worker while I was researching the CTD. It was cherry condition with only 14,000 miles on the clock. He would have sold it to me for 25K. This Isuzu made engine has not been out long enough to prove to me the same reliability that the Cummins has. Bar no major accidents, or acts of nature I hope to have my CTD for many,many moons. Also considering that I'm in stock form I like to be a tease at the red light, especially if I spot the copperhead lurking in the shadows waiting to catch a couple off the liners on the go light. :-laf

 

[DocDetonancour]

Local dealer has tested the Dur and Ford vs CTD. He claims the CTD is the slowest in a drag, but the faster in a pull. I'll take the pull! Doc

 

[BIG BOB]

Originally posted by Vaughn MacKenzie

Bob do you think he was chipped? Since you're still stock power and a heavier truck I wouldn't feel too bad about it

Chip? I don't think so, he didn't pull me that hard. His truck was SRW with no canopy. Of course the Ghost Rider is DRW, has a canopy, a 60 gallon fuel tank/tool box in the bed. I had about 65 gallons on board and misc tools and emergency things in the tool box. I suppose I was about 1,000#'s heavier that the Duramax.



Today I just put on the 51" Nelson muffler. The throttle response and power is much better all the way through the rpm range. It seem to be quite spunky!

 

[dpetre]

I test drove a DMAX today and it is a great truck. It is smooth power and has a good ride. I tried to trade the wifes 03 Enoy but the difference was to much. My 02 Dodge is at the dealer with a dead injection pump. So far I have seen 5 different Dodge owners switch to the DMAX and they are all pleased. I keep an F150 that I drive when ever my Dodge breaks down. The way it has been going I had better buy some new tires for the Ford because it is going to be 3 weeks before the Dodge comes back. Once I get my Dodge up and running then I will be able to pick on the Ford and Chevy owners.

 

[Dieselnerd]

A good friend of mine just got a Duramax crew cab dually 4x4. He also has a '98 12 valve 2500 4x4 with a Banks kit that he kept for his farm. He and I both pull large fifth wheels. He admitted that his CTD pulled his trailer better up hills but he likes the Chevy better because of the smooth ride. I drove his Duramax and I really like it. I have been planning on buying a new CTD when the 2005's come out but now I'm not so sure. Since I first drove the Duramax he's now taken it in and had the full Banks mods done. It has the 6 pack switch on the dash that you can set for any of 6 power levels. He let me drive it again and I turned it up to 6 and let it rip. It really went! He says it now tows better than the CTD. Since my dealer sells Chevy and Dodge I can try both at the same place. All this talk about head gaskets is overblown on the Duramax. I talked to the service guys at my dealer and the Duramax isn't having any more problems than the Cummins. It also has a 100K warranty. I doubt they will last as long as the CTD but I rarely keep a truck over 100K anyhow. The thing that I like best about the Chevy is the ride. I need a 4x4 where I live and there's no comparison. His dually rides almost as nice as a car. Don't get me wrong, I still love the look of the Dodge and the Cummins is the best but Chevy has come a long way. Now if I could only get the Chevy with a Cummins...

 

[zari]

Yep...

I 24-hour test drove all three big diesels (Chevy, Ford, and Dodge), stick and auto, last year, before I bought mine.



The Allison in the Chevy is nice, but personally, I like the feel of a "positive" gear change like in the 48RE better than the 'mushiness' of the Allison. Overall, the Chevy drove nice, but it was lacking low-end torque big time, pulling the Montana. Especially hurt going up the hill to our house, pretty steep, and from a stop...



The PowerStrokes didn't even make it home with me - no, they didn't brake down, but I didn't like the ride, so I dismissed them off the bat.



Fo me, the overall best package was the Dodge/Cummins. <b>Lots</b> of low end torque, nice on they eye, good cab space, and I loved the fold-out rear seat cargo rack - perfect for the shepherds. Pulling the Montana was really nice, and going up the hill to our house, after a full stop, made all the comments I heard about 'low end torque' materialize! The manual was too hard for the wife to drive (mainly clutch push), so I got the auto - lazy me was leaning that way anyhow .



Don't regret it a bit. And I have left many a Powerstroke and Duramax in the dust pulling the Montana, both from a dead stop, and on the Interstate going up hills. And frankly, if I wanted something to smoke people from the red light, I'd buy a Viper, or maybe a 2005 Mustang Cobra (more affordable )...



For what <b>I</b> use it for (pulling Montana & flatbed w/ horsefeed, lawn mower, etc. ), this truck is perfect.

 

[Prairie Dog]

Bob, what do you think of the Nelson muff? Is it quiet on the highway?

 

[carson6]

a hill,aload,...

a hundred thousand mile's I'll take my six's