Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) best way to get 600hp

[stoneagemaxx]

01 6speed 4x4 stright pipe van aken everything else stock kind of a daily driver hot rodder pull traliers know and then what is a reasonable hp for what I do and what is the best way to get there :-laf

 

[DCreed]

mine works great! @500hp daily & towing fun but anyone can drive without worries. would go with slightly bigger turbo/injectors if not towing too often.

 

[Graphic man]

Twins

220hp injectors

drag comp



= 600+ HP

 

[GOT-Torque]

Just like Graphic man stated above. If you tow very often you will want to go with twins or you will have keep the rpms up to keep your big single turbo cool.

 

[SNiebaum]

600 may be a stretch on a stock HO pump.

 

[sgoeing]

What turbos and/or whose setup would you guys use for the twins?


edit: Did some research on available systems:


Pier's Diesel Research
Piers Diesel Research Inc. The turbo diesel performance specialists! - Twin Turbos
Piers Diesel Research Inc. The turbo diesel performance specialists! - Prices Dodge US
PDR Twins - Street/Strip Series - )comes complete with Modified HX40-TW, HT3B/26, ATS 3 piece pulse manifold and complete piping kit (including AFE intakefilter, oil supply etc
$4455. 00
PDR Twins - Towing Series - comes complete with Modified HX35-TW with 14 w/gated housing, HT3B/26, ATS 3 piece pulse manifold and complete piping kit (including AFE intake filter, oil supply etc)
$4455. 00


Industrial Injection
Industrial Injection Service Inc. : Compound PhatShaft For Dodge Page
Code: IIS2GTT
Price: $4,975. 00


Thoroughbred Diesel
ATS Aurora Twin (Compound) Turbo Kit,
ATS turbo for Dodge Cummins diesel trucks
Fits Dodge 24-Valve 98. 5-02, Complete with Turbos, Manifolds, Piping and all Mounting Hardware
NOTE: Boost pressure is adjustable down to 40PSI, when boost levels of over 48 PSI are run head studs are highly recommended, On automatic transmission applications the factory heat exchanger is removed
Part #AUR-TWIN-D-KIT-98. 5-02 $4775. 00
(FREE SHIPPING)


BD 3790
BD Diesel Performance turbo kits
Designed for high-powered '94-‘06 5. 9 liter Cummins applications without cylinder head modifications, the BD twin turbo's can easily flow enough air for up to 575 rwhp on diesel only. Add a BD Cool-It intercooler and a shot of nitrous oxide, and watch the power level climb to 800+! Great street and strip driveability, easy installation, and the factory oil coolers can be retained.
1994-1999 stock engines have the 12 sq cm w/g hsg that can be quite restrictive when the power is increased above 300 flywheel HP and results in high exhaust temperature.
2001 automatic transmission equipped engines have a 9 or 10 sq cm hsg that is too restrictive for a high power increase (beyond the 300 hp)
The ultimate “bolt-on” for the Dodge Ram! BD's twin turbo's for the Dodge 5. 9 liter Cummins engine can develop between 350 to 700 rear wheel horsepower (rwhp) with adequate fueling (diesel only) while remaining responsive and durable enough for street and towing applications. Not only do these kits deliver impressive horsepower and torque increases, they look great and sound incredible!
BD twin turbo kit features a pair of stage-compounded AirWerks S300 turbochargers equipped with extended tip compressor wheels to keep air flow high, and exhaust gas temperature (EGT) low. The kit's high-pressure turbo provides quick, low-rpm response, which is then compounded by the low-pressure turbo for a broad power curve across the engine's rpm range.
Plus, the high-pressure dual volute waste gated turbo in this kit is the same used in the BD twin turbo kit, making it easy to step up to twin-turbo power when you're ready.
For competition applications, even higher horsepower (675 plus) and boost pressure (100 psi) can be obtained-- however a lot of fuel and a shot of nitrous to overcome the inefficiencies of the stock intercooler. 2003-current trucks can also benefit from BD's new Cool-It intercooler; applications for earlier trucks are currently in the works.
The BD twin turbo kit comes complete with a stainless steel X-Intake, flow-matched exhaust and intake piping and all necessary heat shields—plus, '03-06 applications come with our new three-piece Pulse exhaust manifold. Installation allows for the stock oil cooler to be left in its place.


BD Diesel
http://www.bd-power.com/ram/product.php?pn=BD Super B Twin Turbos&tt=ram&israceproduct=1
3825 plus shipping

 

[LUnderwood]

I made 636 fairly easy with my setup, But as stated , not smart for towing! I would consider some of the Custom twin companys! BD Is a cost effective method but might run warm at that HP. Also, I would agree, get rid of the HO pump! I've seen a HO pump make 600 but by a long shot and some N20!

 

[DCreed]

does the HO make less power than the SO 44?

 

[paulb]

does the HO make less power than the SO 44?

The HO VP44 is usually tapped out, at about 500hp. At least without some Nitrous...



Paul

 

[rdd4x4]

I never got to put my truck on the dyno while I had this set up, but the BD Twins set up that was the biggest that they had at the begining of last year ( I think it was the "Super B" ) was rated at 550 hp at 50 psi bost while keeping temp under 1350 deg f ( ish ). And from that you could buy shims from them to raise the boost another 10-15 psi. they strongly reccomend that you don't plug the waistgate because it can cause the turbos to over boost and fail if you have to much fuel. My truck is an 2002 2500 HO, I've got head studs, a marine head gasket, 150 hp nozzles that I had popped off and balenced to where they produce 365 hp and 899. 9 ft tq with the stock turbo with 315/75 R16 tires ( roughly about 35" X 12. 5" ). I put the twins on and added a Edge Comp box and it ran great. Very streetable but I wanted more power so I traded it for a TST PM 3. This set up was AWESOME! Keep in mind that my VP-44 was and is stock. Before I bought the twins I put a Snow stage 2 water/meth injection kit on and it seemed to help EGT's by about 150- 200 deg. . With the TST PM-3 on 9 and the water/meth turned on with my injectors and a stock vp-44, it would heat the twins up QUICK! I qould have to keep a close eye on my temp under WOT because the temp would go up just as quick as the boost did it seemed. So just for fun I plugged the waist gate so I could see what it would do. My boost gauge goes to 60 and pegs and my temp goes to 1500 deg. I floored it puling a slight hill going about 60 mph and watched my temp peg right after my boost pegged, I could hear the twins still spooling and I let off around 95 mph. So I don't know what the hp the twins are capable of handling, but if your set up is similar to how mine was your going to be looking at alot of heat if you push them. My guess on hp and tq at the tires was probably around 600 at least and probably between 1200 and 1300 ftlb tq. My reason for guessing these numbers is because of the clutches that I burt up getting there. I had to end up going with a South Bend DD3850 to get one to hold, and though it held it felt like it was straining at times. I hope this helps with your set up.

 

[GCULP]

for twins call Rip at Sourceautomotive. 503-654-9004. or sourceautomotive. biz

 

[NoSeeUm]

Any reason you need 600 Hp?



Never mind, I know why.....



I have probably around 500 Hp with M4's, Smarty and the TST. I can't tow with the TST turned on. But I do very well on just injectors and Smarty SW4. I am guessing that is around 350 Hp.



Don't forget to throw a bigger clutch into the mix. I you are still running the OEM one you will toast it in a hurry.



Jim

 

[PRout]

Will probably need the head o-ringed as well.

600 hp sounds fun, as long as your willing to spend the bucks to do it right and actually be able to use that power. . :-laf