Bio-Desiel?????!!!

[Frak]

Bio-Diesel?????!!!

Anyone out there know much about using bio-D in the CTD? And what about quality of product, manufacturing, what ingredients make the best fuel? And could it ever compete performance wise with the fossil fuels? any lit or other sites will be appreciated.

 

[JTryles]

Try here:



http://www.biodiesel.org/



Not that it's a CTD but my friend has a 2003 Ford with the 6. 0L and he is loving how his engine is running on B-20. He feels it is an improvement over straight dino-diesel.

 

[CLAYTON]

Frak... My father in-law ran a couple of tanks of Bio-20 in his 04 CTD... exhaust smelled like popcorn :-laf Wish it wasn't so expensive. There are some good threads if you use the search mode. I'll see if I can find the ones that I am thinking about.

 

[CLAYTON]

I found two but I couldn't find the one that I was thinking about. Click on one of these two... (1 ,2 )

 

[EMD-Run8]

My understanding is that it has roughly the same cetane but better lubricity with less emissions. If it's ever cheap enough I'll try it. What's really a trip is that a 12v with a p-pump will run on D1, D2, K1, K2, Jet-A, Jet-A1, JP-5 or JP-8!!

 

[Daimler Dan]

A local coop here has bio-diesel. Costs about 10 cents more per dollar (about 20 cents total right now). I did not see any benefit as far as performance, noice, smoke, and mileage. Just a slightly thinner wallet.

Just my experience.

 

[robertyoke]

the local co-op here started selling it for $. 30 more per gal but the price has dropped and is now only $. 03~$. 04 more per gal for the 80/20 bio. they say the more they sell the better the price will get.

-robert

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Wish it wasn't so expensive. There are some good threads if you use the search mode.

From what I've seen Bio goes for about the same price as dino diesel around here (still $2. 69 per gallon). Vaughn

 

[JThiessen]

Where are they selling it at Vaughn? If I could find a source around Seattle, I'd likely pay up to . 20-. 30 more for it, just to help get its market going. If they cant get people to start buyingit in large enough quantities so that they can then purchase in bulk for production and start bringing the price down... we'll be forever dependant on the Sand Millionaires...

 

[Frak]

How do we go about getting a plant-supplier in new states?

I live in Idaho and the closest I've found a fill station is in Montana, one hell of a drive for petrol. :--)



If you have a large agriculture sector in the state, you could probably try to get the ball rolling with farmers, or go for the JUGULAR and propose the idea to JR Simplot. (Largest land owner in Idaho) Everything from massive feed lots to thousands of acre of Ag. Just thinking how to get people motivated and more Bio at the pump.



Heard there opening a new plant in Texas, how long did that take? and What are they using for fuel?

 

[surfbeetle]

http://www.greasecar.com and http://www.greasel.com/ are a couple of sites for straight veggie oil, not bio diesel. Supposedly you can drive for free off of used oil from restaurants. you just have to find a restaurant that will give you the oil. You have to run a two tank system, diesel is for start up and shut down and veggie is for running around. I Have been hesitant to try it as I don't know if I want to deal with the filtering the oil and all that mess.

 

[JHardwick]

Local Sunoco just started selling soy-diesel at $. 05 more per gallon ... ... ..... and it's only B2

 

[ACerf]

Bio Diesel

Staying here in Phoenix I found a station selling B-100 for $2. 36 per gallon. The regular diesel fuel here is $2. 34-2. 39 per gallon. My concern is if DC will have fit if we use it, if the truck is still under warranty. I have sent an email to DC asking that question.

 

[Iguide]

I would be very interested in knowing what DC has to say about that.



Thanks

 

[CLAYTON]

Staying here in Phoenix I found a station selling B-100 for $2. 36 per gallon

That's a good price for B-100 right now. Except I wouldn't want to run it at full strength.

 

[nickleinonen]

i've used b20 in mine... works fine... fuel economy is about the same [= not good with my lead foot driving] pricy though... and no pay at the pump option there at my local bioD station

 

[JHardwick]

My concern is if DC will have fit if we use it, if the truck is still under warranty. I have sent an email to DC asking that question.

You know what they are gonna say

 

[Diesel Dually]

I believe the owners manual in the '05 states no more than B5 (5%) bio. I would like to know why. Maybe it's because most bio in the US is soy based?

 

[DBrickel]

Where are they selling it at Vaughn? If I could find a source around Seattle, I'd likely pay up to . 20-. 30 more for it, just to help get its market going. If they cant get people to start buyingit in large enough quantities so that they can then purchase in bulk for production and start bringing the price down... we'll be forever dependant on the Sand Millionaires...

there is a place in ballard the is selling B-100. don't know the current price is but I checked it out several months ago and it was $3. 69 a gal. :--)

I understand there is supposed to be a new place going in by the downtown Seattle Costco store. Don't know if they are up and running yet.

I've been researching producing my own bio. Seems simple enough to do. Just need to find a place to get the veggie oil. Also would like to find someone who is doing it to help set me up or possibly a Seminar locally.

 

[jcarey]

Maria Alovert is one of the pioneers of homebrew bio. She did a bunch of classes in 2004, but haven't seen any for 2005.



Try this site for some info:

http://localb100.com/



Her book:

http://www.localb100.com/book.html



Good site for bio kit (lots of inexpensive kits):

http://www.biodieselwarehouse.com/



This site has a free monthly magazine in pdf format or view as HTML. However, the HTML may not always be around. Very good info. There April newsletter has part #1 of an article on how to make a test batch (about a quart). The May issue has part #2. You can download the mags as far back as Jan 2005. Do a couple of test batches to get the idea, and I think you'll be good to go. At least that's what I plan on doing.



Jim