Biodiesel

[Bob Fennema]

Went to get a tank of Biodiesel yesterday and was stopped by the price. $1. 81 for #2 and $1. 96 for B20.

 

[robobx]

Originally posted by KKlepfer



Haven't used Bio, does anyone know if its available in the Phoenix, AZ area?

http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/showstate.asp?st=AZ





RFennema, well it's easier and better than messing around with additives. Stanadyne adds about . 12 a gallon. And Bio is DIRECTLY helping our country! for it to come down in price people have to use itOo.

 

[Bob Fennema]

Originally posted by robobx

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RFennema, well it's easier and better than messing around with additives. Stanadyne adds about . 12 a gallon. And Bio is DIRECTLY helping our country! for it to come down in price people have to use itOo.

Well I mentioned that Biodiesel was too expensive and got "what for" from my wife. She loves the idea. In the interested of domestic tranquility, I am going to use B20 in my next fuel up. "Beware of the man who claims to be boss in his own house, he may lie about other things too. "





Bob Fennema

 

[robobx]

sometimes we need to let them feel they have some say in things Makes it easier when we want to bomb away

I wish I lived close enough to run nothing but bio, nearest public pump is over 3 hours. the bummer is that local DOT and electric company run it, but i can't unless I want to burn half a tank to go get it

 

[Bob Fennema]

Originally posted by robobx



nearest public pump is over 3 hours.

I don't have a location excuse because the station is at a major freeway off ramp and in only one mile sooth of our major east to west freeway, I-8. I drive by twice a day. Looked at the link you posted and there are very few biodiesel stations in California so I guess a nearby station is a rarity.



Bob Fennema

 

[Andy Perreault]

Originally posted by FM

I don't run it cause I'm some eco nazi, I'm not. I'm running it hoping bio will take off creating a huge market for US farmers.

I haven't used it in my truck yet (not sure where to get it in the Seattle area), but I like the idea that it would give our farmers an economic boost and cut our dependence on those middle eastern countries who support anti-American terrorism.

Andy

 

[SEmerson]

I have ran hundreds of gallons of waste cooking oil in my 97. many times as high as 100%. Runs great smell better. I also burn all my waste drain oil.



Flame suit on and ready to burn.

 

[NC_Mog]

Originally posted by SEmerson

I also burn all my waste drain oil.

What is your process on this? Settling times, amount you reuse, filtration, etc.

 

[FM]

Charlotte to Garner is a long haul to fill up. These are the sites in NC I've found:



Han-Dee Hugo's BP Station

401 Benson Road

Garner, NC 27529 Haddon Clark 919 779-3858 B20



Pit and Pump

1500 Piney Green Rd.

Jacksonville, NC 28540 Bill Langston 910 353-3754 B5



Pit and Pump

1000 Park Dr.

Washington, NC 27889 Wayne Langston 252 948-0715 B5



and this is where I found them:



http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/default.shtm



Unfortunatly Washington and Jacksonville are farther than Garner. Lets hope this changes in your favor soon.

 

[Blue2002]

Have I got this right?

PRO

- Better lubricicity

CON

Less BTU = Less MPG

$0. 20 more per gallon ($2. 00 per 10 gallons)

And is more likely to get bugs



**BIO Diesel is going to need to be $0. 20 cheaper than dino for me to consider using it. I'll lubricate my own fuel for now. **

 

[FM]

I have not experienced any drop in mpg and here it cost the same as #2 so hopefully its a win/win for me.

 

[Dennis Garrett]

When I cleaned out my turkey fryer, I strained the used peanut oil, & ran it through the Dodge, a quart at a time. Ran great! Got rid of all of it that way.

 

[robobx]

I have a brother living in Raleigh so I have an excuse and we go to the OBX frequently. I'd just like to find a clean plastic barrel or 2 to fill up when i do make it over there.

I did talk to a fuel place in Hertford that would sell me up to 500 gallons of B100 at a time and mix it in whatever concentration I wanted. I just don't have a way to get it here. The only local place I found that had any interest was a wholesaler that said I had to take 6000 gallons at a time.

Originally posted by FM

Charlotte to Garner is a long haul to fill up. These are the sites in NC I've found:



Han-Dee Hugo's BP Station

401 Benson Road

Garner, NC 27529 Haddon Clark 919 779-3858 B20



Pit and Pump

1500 Piney Green Rd.

Jacksonville, NC 28540 Bill Langston 910 353-3754 B5



Pit and Pump

1000 Park Dr.

Washington, NC 27889 Wayne Langston 252 948-0715 B5



and this is where I found them:



http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/default.shtm



Unfortunatly Washington and Jacksonville are farther than Garner. Lets hope this changes in your favor soon.

 

[banzaitoyota]

in Aiken SC, B20 is 1. 46/gallom

 

[jrandol]

Anybody know of some biodiesel stations in NOrthern Kentucky or Ohio?



Jeff

 

[robobx]

Originally posted by banzaitoyota

in Aiken SC, B20 is 1. 46/gallom

wow aiken is only 144 miles, I oughta be albe to do that in a little over 2 hours. and it's . 20 a gallon cheaper than the staion in Garner NC.

almost every station around Charlotte is at $1. 599 for #2





Thanks for the info yota!

 

[SEmerson]

Originally posted by NC_Mog

What is your process on this? Settling times, amount you reuse, filtration, etc.

For drain i drain in a pan then just take it to the tank and dump it in. I have ran about 50% oil diesel with no differnce of any sort in driving.

 

[robobx]

Originally posted by banzaitoyota

in Aiken SC, B20 is 1. 46/gallom

What location is that?

I called the 1046 Toolebeck Rd location and they said they're selling b5 for $1. 46 and b100 for 2. 43.



Thanks!

Rob

 

[Midnite]

Originally posted by SEmerson

For drain i drain in a pan then just take it to the tank and dump it in. I have ran about 50% oil diesel with no differnce of any sort in driving.

Wow--that sounds more than a little high on the oil side. Cummins claims that up to 5% oil is fine to burn, and I've been doing that in my '92 for quite awhile, and just started doing it this winter in my '00.



I do it to try to boost the lubricity of the winter fuel up here. I'd buy biodiesel in a heartbeat, but it just doesn't exist up here unless you make it yourself.



Mike

 

[JoeBioDiesel]

I've been making Biodiesel for nearly 4 years, and using it for over 220K miles of driving. I have run it in a 99VW Golf, an '83 VW Quantum TD, an '87 Isuzu P'up, and a 96 Cummins (since I got it in June). I have a 1100 mile/week commute. I usually run 100% Biodiesel (B100) as long as the weather is warm enough. When it get colder I run lower blends. I home brew my own fuel for about 55 cents/gallon, making it out of waste fryer grease. The retail Biodiesel is usually made out of new soy oil.

It does have higher lubricity, and makes a nice additive to regular Diesel for that reason. It does have a higher Cetane, and lower BTU value. If you run a blend you will probably not notice any performance or mileage change. If you run B100 you will probably notice a drop in both.

At B20 levels you will notice less soot (about 50% less at B20 levels), and be able to add more fuel without the same increases in sooting that you get with regular Diesel fuel. (more power and less smoke when Bombing )

You will probably notice more white smoke on startup.

You will probably notice a different exhaust smell... some people say it smell like french fries, or something similar.

(I know, most of these things were already mentioned)

Biosiesel is hydrophillic and can allow water to emulsify in Diesel fuel, making the water able to pass through fuel filters.

Biodiesel has been known to remove Zinc plating (like on the overflow valves on P7100 pumps).

Biodiesel can cause rubber fuel components to become soft, as it replaces some of the bonding agents used in rubber hoses.



It's not a perfect fuel, but it does make a nice additive. For people that like to tinker, and have the room for a small processor, making it is easy and economical. I can fill my Cummins' fuel tank for under $20. 00.



Cheers,



Joe