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Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) Blew Oil Cap, Foamy, Dipstick Watery

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I was accelerating hard up a slow grade, turbo boosting in the 20s. Timing is at 18 degrees with water injection too. Stock head gasket with stock bolts retorqued. Heard a pop or bang that sounded like my exhaust rattling so i ignored it until i noticed that my oil pressure which is usually near 60 psi at interstate speeds had dropped to around 50. I was in 3rd gear going about 65 mph, around 2,200 RPMs.



When i pulled over i found that my oil cap had blown off! I'm almost certain i had reinstalled it when i topped the oil off earlier, then again, there were kids playing all over my truck today, hard to say.



In stop and go driving oil was still returning to 60 psi, but at idle, where it is usually a little over 30 psi, it was down around 25. Otherwise, the engine felt just as powerful and healthy all the way home. There is some oil underneath which i assume to be from the crank case vent tube. A little more oil than i expected, left fresh drops in my driveway within 10 minutes. In fact, i think there is more oil under there than usual, but it is likely because i spilled a little today since i didn't use a funnel from the 1 gallon jug.



On the inside of the top of the oil filler neck, there is white foam. I imagine the oil filler cap could have been missing and debris could have collected, but i'm leaning more toward thinking it was on there and busted off. I was able to wipe my finger and a towel in it and get a bit of the goo out of the tube and saw that it was definitely white.



The dipstick looks a little watery above the oil full line. Tiny clear bubbles as if some water had misted there. Is it possible the water injection had dripped down that far? I looked in the overflow and the engine coolant is still green. With a very poor flashlight, i couldn't see any leaks on the engine. The tailpipe is bone dry, solid gray. I dabbed a tiny bit of oil via the dipstick into a small bowl tilted to see if there is any water separation over night.



I had mixed some oils, 1. 5 quarts of 10W-40, mostly Motocraft 15W-40, and another quart of Rotella 15W-40. I only mixed because i had a leak at the AFC for a few days and was using what i had to refill. The engine oil level is full to where i had left it earlier in the day. I'd be surprised if so, but could mixing have caused the foam? I seem to recall Motocraft using anti-foaming additive in their diesel oil but i don't remember what diesel oi foaming means.



I realize i've been pushing my head gasket to the limits and beyond. Do these signs definitely point to blowing the head gasket, or is this something else? Is it possible to blow the oil filler cap, even when snugly threaded on tight? Will the oil pressure read lower without a cap? What should be my next step in diagnosis? I'm planning to head out on an at leat 3,000 miles trip in just a day and a half. My boost is limited to 27 psi being wary of the head gasket, though most of my driving is near 5,000' elevation.
 
Yup, pretty confident the head gasket went. Probably a combination of the water injection and high timing. The stock HG will not last long due to the cylinder pressures 18* produces not to mention throwing water in the mix. The milky oil is definately a sign of coolant in the oil. I sure would not drive it much anymore, if at all and for sure not on a 3K raod trip.



Joe
 
The oil isn't milky, it is black. On the first check the dipstick appeared to have tiny beads of water above the oil safe line. Every re-dip after was totally black oil. The watery beads were present for several inches up the stick, just going down to the safe line.

Is it possible that the water injected just didn't burn off and got down into the oil? My injector is mounted in the intake manifold, just before the bend down to the grid heaters. Perhaps i should disable the water injection a couple blocks before stopping for a more complete burn.

The engine coolant level has not decreased. The oil pressure did return to 60 psi around 2,000 RPMs in second gear between stop lights, which seems all the more curious to me. Overall, oil pressure is down, 25 psi at the lowest. I still need answers to my other questions before i'm convinced the head gasket has blown.
 
As an update, it appears i was injecting too much water at too low a boost setting. I'll have to change the mapping later. There was a lot of water on the dipstick. This morning the oil pressure was way up, 75 psi at idle climbing to 100 psi revving just a little. Big clouds of white smoke were blowing out the tailpipe when revved.

While driving, things seemed to mostly return to normal, except that oil pressure at idle was going down below 25 psi. I had the oil changed, old oil looked good. Things have been back to perfectly normal since. I will pickup my new oil cap tomorrow. Didn't realize they are vented from the factory.
 
if you blew the oil cap on a 12v, I want to shake your hand...



I can barely get my cap off with vise grips just by hand tightening it.



as I was reading, it sounded to me like you were running too much water.



not sure what the pop was unless you blew the cap into multiple pieces
 
with too much water at low boost, I will accumlate some water on my dipstick as well. Run the truck without water/meth on, but run it hard and see if the next day before startup if there is any more on the dipstick. If there isnt any, I doubt you have a problem.
 
I blew another oil cap this weekend. Was driving in the mountains, highest was over 12,000' for many miles. This was my second stock style cap after blowing two others from the parts store. I already have an oil leak at the turbo oil drain tube but was smelling oil even stronger.

At an idle, i could see vapors climbing out the oil fill tube. Changed the oil about a week ago, it is possible that the cap wasn't screwed on super tight but was definitely screwed back on. Since i haven't read of anyone else blowing off their oil cap, i suspect this to be a strange thing. What could be causing this?

If it has anything to do with crank case pressure, i have pretty healthy drops every night from the CCV drain tube, but not enough to be bathing the undercarriage. Haven't been running water injection in weeks.
 
If you have a turbo seal going bad you'll pressurize the crankcase through the oil return line. Something is causing excessive crankcase pressure, hopefully not the head gasket, which in some cases can leak straight to the oiling system and pressurize the crankcase but not affect the cooling system.

Vaughn
 
Roger on that Vaughn. Mine is a booger to get off. Seems to me all the seals, gaskets, would be blown away before the oil fill cap could come off from too much crank case pressure.

Smitty
 
I've changed the engine oil and coolant a couple times this summer. Haven't seen any mixing between the two. If there is a leak, shouldn't it have shown itself, or could it just be a tiny, unnoticeable amount? How can i diagnose and what should i have a diesel shop check? Haven't seen a drop of coolant anywhere along the outside of the block, just the usual oil around the pan.
 
I take it you have a 94 block, I just had a 96 block that had the very same thing happen but it got worse over time I pulled the engine and plugged all the coolent holes and made a plate to block off the water inlet installed an air chuck and presserized the coolent sys and found that water was leaking thru the block under the tappet cover very little at 30psi as pressure went up the leak increased, I hope yours is not the same.
 
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Had a shop check it out with a gauge and even when power braking made very little pressure through the oil filler tube. Mechanic told me it is normal to see vapors rising from the tube without the cap on. He also confirmed that if i'd had enough pressure to blow the cap, i would have blown every seal in the engine first.

He concluded that vibrations must be chucking my oil caps. So i'll have to come up with some sort of tie down so it won't disappear, but won't get caught in my fan next time it pops off. Knowing i have no blowby is a relief. Also, the TLSE Turbo Systems modifications destroyed my turbo. Not only did the porting ruin it, he didn't even put it back together correctly. Cost me hundreds to have this new shop replace and fix.
 
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