Cable Tie Reference

[mwilson]

For you project kinda' guys out there... .



It is a ***** to find the proper cable or wire ties for a project at times or you go to NAPA and they want an arm and a leg for a few special ties.



I have a PDF of many different styles that Freightliner and Western Star use on the trucks attaching things to the frames using protruding fasteners or also for tapeing to wire harnesses so that you can create attaching points.



For example on Page 5, figure 8 are the ones that Seth and I use to secure the fuel feed and return lines to the frame of our Rams, all you do is put an 1" long 1/4" bolt thru the frame, put a nut on it and push that tie on the remaining threads. It works great... ... .



These are available at any Freightliner or Western Star dealer using the part number shown at the left.



If you want a copy, send me an e-mail and I will forward it to you. I can't get it on here just yet due to size.



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Hope it helps someone. .



Mike.

 

[Jim W]

Mike,

I would castrate a designer if he specified a plastic tie wraps on any fuel/hydraulic hoses on the Caterpillar machines that I was responsible for. The hard plastic would/could cut into the cover of the hose. Another issue tie wraps would not be replaced by the mechanic when servicing the lines thus they would drop and rub through.

When we design a machine and go through the service and safety audit I would have been hung up by my toes if the auditor found tie wraps on hoses.

We always had to use a three piece clamp system which included a rubber grommet and a two piece clamp that covered the grommet; this was than bolted to the frame. If we were dealing with small lines such as fuel you could get by with the low cost rubber coated clip but no wire ties.

Jim W.

 

[mwilson]

Mike,

I would castrate a designer if he specified a plastic tie wraps on any fuel/hydraulic hoses on the Caterpillar machines that I was responsible for. The hard plastic would/could cut into the cover of the hose. Another issue tie wraps would not be replaced by the mechanic when servicing the lines thus they would drop and rub through.

When we design a machine and go through the service and safety audit I would have been hung up by my toes if the auditor found tie wraps on hoses.

We always had to use a three piece clamp system which included a rubber grommet and a two piece clamp that covered the grommet; this was than bolted to the frame. If we were dealing with small lines such as fuel you could get by with the low cost rubber coated clip but no wire ties.

Jim W.

Yes, thank God my '97 doesn't shake like a D-9 High Track on ledge.....



But your point is correct, there are places that they should not used. If you do use them they have to be tight.



We had a years worth of warranty on the latest 60 series back along as some nitwit planner specced or a vendor offered up wire loom that was too rough on the inside.



The result... ECM wiring was shaking, expanding and contracting inside of the loom that was attached to the engine block. The insulation on the wire wore through and shorts, bad connections were the result. Sometimes the stupidest, simplest thing will shut these beauties down... .



Mike.