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!!!!!"""The scientists also found previously that chatty motorists are less adept than drunken drivers with blood alcohol levels exceeding 0. 08. """!!!!!!!





Drivers on Cell Phones Kill Thousands, Snarl Traffic

By Robert Roy Britt

LiveScience Senior Writer

posted: 01 February 2005

01:52 pm ET







Finally, empirical proof you can blame chatty 20-somethings for stop-and-go traffic on the way to work.



A new study confirms that the reaction time of cell phone users slows dramatically, increasing the risk of accidents and tying up traffic in general, and when young adults use cell phones while driving, they're as bad as sleepy septuagenarians.



"If you put a 20-year-old driver behind the wheel with a cell phone, their reaction times are the same as a 70-year-old driver who is not using a cell phone," said University of Utah psychology professor David Strayer. "It's like instantly aging a large number of drivers. "



The study was announced today and is detailed in winter issue of the quarterly journal Human Factors.



Traffic jams and death



Cell phone distraction causes 2,600 deaths and 330,000 injuries in the United States every year, according to the journal's publisher, the Human Factors and Ergonomics Society.



The reason is now obvious:



Drivers talking on cell phones were 18 percent slower to react to brake lights, the new study found. In a minor bright note, they also kept a 12 percent greater following distance. But they also took 17 percent longer to regain the speed they lost when they braked. That frustrates everyone.



"Once drivers on cell phones hit the brakes, it takes them longer to get back into the normal flow of traffic," Strayer said. "The net result is they are impeding the overall flow of traffic. "



Strayer and his colleagues have been down this road before. In 2001, they found that even hands-free cell phone use distracted drivers. In 2003 they revealed a reason: Drivers look but don't see, because they're distracted by the conversation. The scientists also found previously that chatty motorists are less adept than drunken drivers with blood alcohol levels exceeding 0. 08.



Separate research last year at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign supported the conclusion that hands-free cell phone use causes driver distraction.



"With younger adults, everything got worse," said Arthur Kramer, who led the Illinois study. "Both young adults and older adults tended to show deficits in performance. They made more errors in detecting important changes and they took longer to react to the changes. "



The impaired reactions involved seconds, not just fractions of a second, so stopping distances increased by car-lengths.



Older drivers more cautious



The latest study used high-tech simulators. It included people aged 18 to 25 and another group aged 65 to 74. Elderly drivers were slower to react when talking on the phone, too.



The simulations uncovered a twofold increase in the number of rear-end collisions by drivers using cell phones.



Older drivers seem to be more cautious overall, however.



"Older drivers were slightly less likely to get into accidents than younger drivers," Strayer said. "They tend to have a greater following distance. Their reactions are impaired, but they are driving so cautiously they were less likely to smash into somebody. " But in real life, he added, older drivers are significantly more likely to be rear-ended because of their slow speed.



Other studies in the journal found:



Telephone numbers presented by automated voice systems compete for drivers' attention to a far greater extent than when the driver sees the same information presented on a display.

Interruptions to driving, such as answering a call, are likely to be more dangerous if they occur during maneuvers like merging to exit a freeway.

Things could get worse. Wireless Internet, speech recognition systems and e-mail could all be even more distracting.
 
AGE DISCRIMINATION!!!!



Older drivers seem to be more cautious overall, however



I wont disagree with that but once you hit a certain age your ability to be observant decreases... .



Monday mom was at the gas station in getting coffee when BAM a older man hit the rear left corner of her jeep busting the tail light, bumper, and rear quarter pannel... he was backing into the parking space, although there was nobody for 2 spots next to her so he had ample room. After this ****** hit my moms car he pulled away and parked yet didnt get out of the vehicle! I would have had him out of the car and about to kick his *** BUT mom politely went to his car and asked him to get out which he did and they called the police and the rest is insurance bs... . hes a 78 yr old man. These people need to be tested regularly not just in the sec of state to have vision but also road tests!



So far Its goign to the DEALER for repairs and ALL NEW DC parts NO aftermarket so HA hope the insurance company likes that one!



Im not saying im the perfect driver but cell phones with someone at any age is goign to distract you. Maybe its just because the 20yr olds tailgate or do something stupid like that then get in an accidnet when dialing/talking on the phone





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Ian



In my Misc pics you will see how I lost my 95 ram with a girl pulling out infront of me :(
 
Old people............

I live in an area where well over 50% of the population are retired citizens.

I can go on and on about what I see every day, and I'm not a cop. I'm sure they have some real good stories.

About once a week we lose our electric due to a pole being plowed down by a car.

I can write a book alone on what I see myself!

Eric
 
interesting... . problem is it doesnt fit 100% of people. I have had a cell phone since I was 18, I am now 26. I talk on the thing quite abit while driving. Never once have I had an accident due to talking on the phone. No close calls either. Some people just cant learn to do both. Unfortunately they just make laws for these people and screw people like me because the other party cant figure it out for themselves that they cant do it. To many laws out there already banning this or that because it may be unsafe to others, if people these days would have a little common sense and know what they can and cant do, we wouldnt have all these damn laws.
 
An inexpensive hands-free headset helps a bunch. It's amazing how much of a distraction it is just to have to hold the cell phone (esp with a 6 speed). With a headset, you can talk on the phone as if the other party is sitting next to you (which is still too much of a distraction for many).



At least the cell carriers are getting involved and alerting people to the risks of using a cell phone while driving by putting info on their website and invoices.
 
Yes klenger, it is a distraction , and cuts into eating/drinking on the way to work!! :D





Ah yes, alerting drivers to the risks, a warning label. They are so helpful. :rolleyes: :D
 
Sled Puller said:
I KNEW IT!!!

Cell phone distraction causes 2,600 deaths and 330,000 injuries in the United States every year, according to the journal's publisher, the Human Factors and Ergonomics Society.



Geez! And they want to ban firearms :confused:
 
"... a warning label. They are so helpful... . "



Another thing to read while driving, talking, eating, doing your hair, nails, writing down your mileage, copying directions being given to you from cell phone, getting your voicemails, LOOKING AT YOUR GPS DISPLAY SCREEN, etc. :-laf
 
A 20 something 'kid' in a Beemer hit a train a couple of weeks ago around here. I think he bruised his ear with his cell phone!!
 
I talk on the thing quite abit while driving. Never once have I had an accident due to talking on the phone



Sort of sounds like my logic when I used to constantly drink and drive the "trap line", i. e. Kalispell to the Snow Slip Inn, Big Fork, Martin City, or wherever I was holed up for the winter. Or anywhere else for that matter. Basically, I had a policy of not driving without drinking. Candidly, I was a fool and a STATISTIC waiting to happen - just like phone yakkers are a STATISTIC waiting to happen.



Are we proposing to have "requirements" for those who can and those who can't yak on a c-phone? Let's see: you are young, male, in fit physical condition, of X IQ, have passed the required "c-phone reflex" test, and therefore, you may drive and yak. However, grandma, you have just had your "yak" certification removed from your license. :D



I admit that I overly react to see some ****&**** yakking while driving. I just want to plow my CTD into that minivan, reach through the window, grab the c-phone out of the guilty parties' hand, and administer a dope slap. But that would be road rage. Hmmm, maybe if I could get a good lawyer - inciting to road rage - could be worth, say perhaps, six figures. :-laf



Since this would be wrong, I instead hope for the day when c-phones will be treated as the drunks and elderly who have sanely lost the priviledge to drive. :)
 
What about cops talking on their radios? Are they any more adapt than anyone else? I don't think so. What about someone eating a big mac, while driving? Did they study that? I personally think that there are some people with an itch in their craw, that cannot mind their own business. Kinda like the environmentalists (with emhpasis on mental), and the animal rights activists. There are always some people out there that are wanting to clean up someone elses acts. Sure there are things that need to be watched and improved on, but there also just as many people that need to clean up their own back yards. IYKWIM. Done venting for the moment!
 
My complaint against c-phones while driving is not that people endanger themselves - that's okay by me. However, like drunk driving, it doesn't just affect the yakker, it also kills the innocent socker mom and the nine kids on the way to practice.



Be responsible and take care of the innocent by pulling over to talk on the c-phone. Then no problema. :)
 
barbwire said:
What about cops talking on their radios? Are they any more adapt than anyone else? I don't think so.





Are you kidding? Theyre operating computers in the cars here.



I agree with the whole eating while driving (and whatever else).

I feel that talking on the C-phone, or eating/feeding the kids, or talking with your hands, or reading the newspaper, putting on makeup, etc. etc. itself shouldnt be against the law. The law shouldnt be against the act of doing something.

I think the law should be that if you cause an accident, youre automatically guilty if you were doing any of the above.

Nobody should be talking on the phone, eating/feeding, reading the paper, putting on makeup, or anything else except driving.

Next thing they'll legislate common sence. :rolleyes:

Eric
 
I agree with you

The patriot said:
Are you kidding? Theyre operating computers in the cars here.



I agree with the whole eating while driving (and whatever else).

I feel that talking on the C-phone, or eating/feeding the kids, or talking with your hands, or reading the newspaper, putting on makeup, etc. etc. itself shouldnt be against the law. The law shouldnt be against the act of doing something.

I think the law should be that if you cause an accident, youre automatically guilty if you were doing any of the above.

Nobody should be talking on the phone, eating/feeding, reading the paper, putting on makeup, or anything else except driving.

Next thing they'll legislate common sence. :rolleyes:

Eric

No more laws :rolleyes:
 
The patriot said:
Next thing they'll legislate common sence. :rolleyes:

Eric



Seems like that is what "they" having been trying to do. Legislating behavior is a fools game. Someone gets in an accident and all of our insurance goes up. Shouldn't the offender carry the cost??? Seems like we could have a lot less laws if people were held more accountable for their actions.
 
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