Chrome fire extinguisher ?

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Anyone know where I can find a chrome fire extingisher. I 've tried Napa, JEG's and JC Whitney to no avail. TIA

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1997 2500 Ext Cab 4X4,5 spd,3. 54's,Pac brake,Rancho 9000's,Centerforce clutch,K&N airfilter,Missing Cat,Isspro gauges,and #11plate(280hp/680tq)AFC medium spring

 

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Pick up an issue of Street Rodder. You should be able to find someone in there that sells them for street rods.

 

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Summit racing sells one. If it's not in their online catalog, call them. I got mine there.

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Chris Timochko
1997 5sp 4X4, HX40, BD 4" Brake, Marine Compression, Custom Tuned Injection Pump, 370B Injection Nozzles, Delivery Valves, Governor & AFC Spring Kit, Psychotty Air, Water Injection, NOS Diesel Kit, 6" Chrome Exhaust System, No Smoke Valet Switch, McLeod Dual Disc Clutch, Mag-Hytec Rear Cover, Cummins Chrome Kit, Optima Red Tops, Hadley Bully Horns, Hurst Line Loc, Goodyear Wrangler AT/S 305/70/16s. Test mule for Auto Wurks Diesel race program

 

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You may have to go to a fire extinguisher business. I have been looking at getting an extinguisher for my RAM, and have been looking at the commercial places. One place I talked to, did mention that you could get chrome models. The owners manual mentions the use of a CO2 extinguisher as one possible way to shut down a run away engine. CO2 does not seem to be practical, so I have researched other options. Halon is no longer available, but Halotron I is the replacement. Kind of expensive vs. dry powder, but it is a clean agent, supposedly no mess to clean up. I am thinking of also installing a larger dry powder to use in cases other than a fire on the RAM, that way I am not out the $100 or so to recharge, and I don't have to clean up the mess that way. I can also use the powder on everything besides the engine and interior, if needed. I strongly recommend periodic inspections of whatever you buy by a professional. I have had MORE than one dry powder extinguisher fail to operate in time of need, the propellant had either escaped, but the gauge indicated full, or the powder had caked in the bottom.

Shelby

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2001 2500 QC LB 4WD, ETH, DEE, 3. 54 gears, Laramie SLT, Camper Special, Trailer Tow, Travel Convenience Group, Power Driver Seat, Alarm System, Remote Keyless Entry, Fog Lamps, Cab Clearance Lamps, HD Transfer Case, Bright White with a Gray Interior. Built 09-15-00, took delivery on 10-06-00, 1749 miles as of 11-25-00. Custom aluminum work body / flat bed.
Coming soon: E-Brake and gauges.

 

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A good source for chrome is a Fire Truck supply house. I have an old General brand dry chemical unit in a chromes case. General is/was one of the bigger names for extinguishers on Fire Trucks and we know how much fire fighters love their chrome. My father was a firefighter for 35 years.

I need to check on the use of <em>Halon&reg; replacement</em> extinguishers around diesel engines. Ingesting original Halon into a diesel produces a gas similar to phosgene (Mustard Gas). I got that from a co-worker that attended the USCG boating safety course.

I'll check on that

Cheers;
*JE*

 

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JohnE, have you got a chance to check on the Halon rerplacement? Sure don't want to produce a poison gas cloud.

Shelby

 

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Chrome Fire Extinguisher!! I thought you were joking! #ad

 

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Well, my exco-worker cannot be found. He left the company a few months back. I turned to the web and my search led me mostly to boating. Here's what I gathered.

Halon suppression systems require secondary cutoffs on marine diesel engines. Either a fuel solenoid cut and/or air intake choke must be activated when the fire suppression is released. A diesel engine will ingest halon without stopping. The halon is consumed by the engine which stops the fire suppression.

Phosgene and Mustard gas are not the same agent.
<em>Phosgene</em> is carbon oxychloride and induces suffocation.
<em>Mustard gas</em> is diclorodiethyl sulfide and burns the eyes and lungs.
Both agents are deadly and the only usage is warfare.
Original Halon&reg; and the replacment Halons are all chlorinated hydrocarbons. Combined with diesel fuel and air, either toxin can be produced.

What was the original question? Chrome extinguisher for fire suppression. Dry chemical is rated high for electrical and liquid fires AND relatively non-toxic. They also come in a chrome case.

Runaway diesel is NOT fire suppression condition. Make sure to have air or fuel cutoff systems.

Hope this helps

JE

 

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John,

Well, I realize that you want to get rid of the fuel and or air to kill a diesel. There is a section on page 150 of the 2001 owners manual that is dedicated to engine runaway shutdown due to uncontrolled fueling , for example an oil leak in the turbo. Step 1 is to shut off the key, followed by Step 2 which is to direct a CO2 or dry chemical fire extinguisher into the air intake above the headlight on the passenger side.

All of the commercial fire extinguisher places I talked to locally (2 or 3) were not very hot on the CO2 idea for some reason, but did recommend the Halotron 1. I want to avoid the dry chemical if I can, makes a huge mess, and if the powder got all the way into the engine internals, I am not convinced it would do so without doing damage to the motor.

So the question is, what clean agent is best? Right now, I am leaning back toward the CO2, despite the professional advice I got here locally. And to keep this on topic, can I get whatever type of extinguisher that is, in chrome?

Shelby

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2001 2500 QC LB 4WD, ETH, DEE, 3. 54 gears, Laramie SLT, Camper Special, Trailer Tow, Travel Convenience Group, Power Driver Seat, Alarm System, Remote Keyless Entry, Fog Lamps, Cab Clearance Lamps, HD Transfer Case, Bright White with a Gray Interior. Built 09-15-00, took delivery on 10-06-00, 1749 miles as of 11-25-00. Custom aluminum work body / flat bed.
Coming soon: E-Brake and gauges.

 

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Shelby;

I was repeating the info from the marine systems in my previous post. I'm aware of the owner's manual recommendations and this is MY thoughts.

Blowing CO₂ through the intake should work to displace the oxygen. The super cooling of the CO₂ should be reduced by the airfilter and turbo compression (heating) factor. Possible a stressed turbo would be the limit, but if a blown turbo is causing the runaway that's a moot point. An intercooler is not effective without a forced airflow. I would hope you stopped the truck before trying to blow out a runaway engine.

Dry chemical should be stopped at the air filter which in turn plugs the engine air source. It should effectively strangle the engine. If your air filter doesn't stop a fast cloud of dry chemical, think about the last 20,000 miles of gritty air passing through the box!

Rebel;

Any luck finding a chrome fire extinguisher?


Cheers;
*JE*


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John,

Thanks for your thoughts. Still undecided. I agree the paper filter should stop the powder, so should not be a problem. I am concerned about the cleanup after the fact with any dry powder extinguisher. There could be occasion to squirt off the powder in the engine compartment or the cab, which would be a mess to clean up. I admit a powdered truck is better than a burnt truck, just looking at all of my options.

Thanks again for all of your thoughts.

Shelby

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2001. 5 2500 QC LB 4WD, ETH, DEE, 3. 54 gears, Laramie SLT, Camper Special, Trailer Tow, Travel Convenience Group, Power Driver Seat, Alarm System, Remote Keyless Entry, Fog Lamps, Cab Clearance Lamps, HD Transfer Case, Bright White with a Gray Interior. Built 09-15-00, took delivery on 10-06-00, 1749 miles as of 11-25-00. Custom aluminum work body / flat bed. Coming soon: E-Brake and gauges.

 

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As these what you are looking for? They are made by a company called APC. Not sure what they are loaded with.

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http://www.rs2motorsport.com/apcfireext.htm



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Look at the pic... in vertical letters it says BICARB (dry chem)

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Good find Stratland #ad
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The dealer I purchased my Ram from sells the exact same chrome fire extinguisher Hemi posted above. I was interested in purchasing one to mount to the side of the driver seat although, after checking clearances etc. I deemed it impossible to mount in the intended location. Do any of you have any good mounting locations in mind?

 

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John,

Maybe along the bottom of the dash, mounted horizontal, where the metal lip is?

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Finally got one of the chrome extingishers... was going to mount it on the floor between the drivers seat and the door (like I've done on other vehicles), but it won't fit #ad
Considered the bottom of the dash, didn't care for that local.

Where is a good place to mount these things???

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1997 2500 Ext Cab 4X4,5 spd,3. 54's,Pac brake,Rancho 9000's,Centerforce clutch,K&N airfilter,Missing
Cat,Isspro gauges,TST #11 plate (280hp/680tq),AFC medium spring and Jardine 4" exh.

 

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Hemi and R. ebel, I considered both the locations listed by you yesterday... still looking.

The problem I have is available space left to mount anything. I told Bill (Kondolay) that I was going to have to carry his Smart Controller in my lap as I was almost out of "real estate" in which to mount it. #ad