Cold???

[DaveHess]

Just for the record and not to slight our East Coast friends, it was -23 (ambient)/ -38 wind chill here in ND this morning. All I can say is thank God for Stanadyne Performance Formula as I still have #2 diesel in the tank from November. Sorry for the East Coast jab! The national morning news was talking about the frigid temps in NY being 7 above zero. That's a heat wave here:-laf. My heart does go out to the folks in MA who are without power. I hope that gets rectified soon.

 

[RRees]

We had a warm front move in. It was only -8F this morning during my commute to work.

The truck got a double dose of Power Service White bottle last night.

 

[DaveHess]

That's funny as there is a guy here at work, a D-Max owner whose truck gelled up last week and he uses PS. He's pretty tight so I can only guess at the "dose" he used. Probably way too little. He dumped some 911 in it and got it running however he brings it to me at the office complaining it is running very rough and is down on power. My first instinct is change out the fuel filter. His response was that costs money and out the door he went. I figure between Howes, PS and Stanadyne, these guys know their business and you can't go too wrong but you can't be chincy in this climate! My big problem right now is I 15W-40 oil in there from the last oil change back in September. There is only about 1,000 miles on that oil and if this isn't bad enough, I have 80W-140 Redline gear lube in the rear. I quick call to the tech folks at Redline got me the news I did not want to hear. The 80W-140 was designed for commercial trucks and I should change to 75W-140. I initially went to the 80W-140 as I have a slight howl from the rear only when she is cold(???), going down a hill, and off the throttle. The 80W-140 was a great band-aid and silenced the noise but now I have very thick gear lube and sub-zero temps. The Redline tech guy said the 80W-140 will pour at -40. So I idle it along for as long as I can to get the lube moving. You gotta love this time of year!

 

[JLEONARD]

Sorry for the East Coast jab

Hey no appology required! I've been out your way on business in Feb when it was minus minus and you can keep all that and we won't get jealous or insulted..... Honest!!:-laf

 

[DaveHess]

Thats funny JLeonard!!!

 

[BILLVO]

Everybody where I work with a D-max was "Waxed" up also. You have to remember we run 7-10 micron fuel filters the D-maxes run a 2 micro. It is hard to push even winter fuel through a 2 micron filter. Most of the new equipment at work with 2 micron filters and winter fuel are still extremely problematic.



The sulfer helps keep the waxes in suspension so by running ulsd even in a winter blend can wax at a higher temp than lsd. We are running a 60%#1 and 40% #2 at work and it will hardly come out of the fuel station hose.



I for one put way to many miles on in the cold to chance a full number 2 ulsd. Some #1 is not a killer like everyone thinks it is. Straight Number 2 is the killer when it leaves you stranded along a road at -20 and -40-60 wind chill, because of the false sense of security people have in conditioners. I ditched everything I had ever ran in the past for Schaeffers Soy Shield and it has delivered great results for me unlike everything else that promises and doesn't deliver. I run a bit of Amsoil cold flow improver like now when temps are below -10*f just as a precaution.

 

[CBrabec]

My truck is gelled up and I cant get it started. It was -12 last night with a wind chill of -35. I filled up my truck on saturday and dumped a whole bottle of stanadyne in, and off I went. Didn't start the truck on sunday (same temps as last night) and I went to start my truck this morning and it shut off after two minuets. I checked the fuel filter and no gel. So I added some 911 to the canister and then dumped the rest of the bottle into the fuel tank. I let it sit for about 5 hrs. and then changed the small filter that is infront of my FASS. Started the truck up, fuel pressure is up and then 2 minuets later the pressure is at 0 again and the truck dies. I can't get this to start. I have been under my truck for the past 2 hrs with a propane heater trying to get the lines to unthaw. Is there anything else I can do? I need to get this running since they are calling for snow tomarrow night. Need some help? Bad!



Chris

 

[TCDiesel]

My truck is gelled up and I cant get it started. It was -12 last night with a wind chill of -35. I filled up my truck on saturday and dumped a whole bottle of stanadyne in, and off I went. Didn't start the truck on sunday (same temps as last night) and I went to start my truck this morning and it shut off after two minuets. I checked the fuel filter and no gel. So I added some 911 to the canister and then dumped the rest of the bottle into the fuel tank. I let it sit for about 5 hrs. and then changed the small filter that is infront of my FASS. Started the truck up, fuel pressure is up and then 2 minuets later the pressure is at 0 again and the truck dies. I can't get this to start. I have been under my truck for the past 2 hrs with a propane heater trying to get the lines to unthaw. Is there anything else I can do? I need to get this running since they are calling for snow tomarrow night. Need some help? Bad!



Chris

If possible Pull it inside to 50* Plus temp in 4 to 5 hrs it will start, than add as much #1 as possible until blended 60/40 Max. Here in MN we have Mandatory Bio-Diesel 3% its good until -17 pumped after that no matter what additive it won't help,(In MN additives may even lower the cloud point, So for anti-gel use in MN save your Money) you can blend 80/20 which will help and you will notice some power lost but it won't leave you stranded.

 

[FOXY005]

not to slight our East Coast friends, it was -23 (ambient)/ -38 wind chill here in ND this morning. Thank God for Stanadyne Performance Formula. Sorry for the East Coast jab!

Hey Jab Away all you want we can take it, I use Stanadyne at each fill-up also and will double dose if they say it is going to be Single Digits Overnight. I jelled once, that was back about 5 years ago and I don't want it to happen again so I am not stingy with the additive.



You can keep your MINUS 23* out there in ND we don't want any on the East Coast. The coldest it gets in my neck of the woods "NE Pennsylvania" is -10* and that is usually only for a few days.



Just curious how much additive do you have to put in for those minus double digit temperatures?

 

[DaveHess]

Hey Foxy you're gonna love this one... I use about 8 OZ (1/2 bottle) per fill-up of Stanadyne. I honestly have done this since the day I bought the truck. Every single fill-up, never missed one. I keep two spare bottles with partial amounts for the event that I do not fill but want to "top off" the Stanadyne. I am sure this makes for an over dose situation but I am running #2 right this moment in this bitter cold ND temps. BILLVO is a good friend of mine here in ND and is WAY smarter than I am but Bill I filled the truck back in November with straight 2 and the usual dose of Stanadyne. My winter beater (Chevrolet) is buried in a snow drift in the driveway and won't start so I was forced to drive the truck everyday since last Tuesday or so. It has been sitting outside in parking lots from 0730 to 2200 hours and has lit every single time. I spoke with JJW (who is also WAY smarter than I) in Lowes the other night and told him how rough it was on initial idle but a smooth, slow rise in RPM to about 1500 and then bring it back smooth and slow and she smoothed right out and idled normal. Don't get me to lyin' because I don't understand why one guy has problems and the other doesn't when you're both doing something you believe is right. BILLVO: Call me when you get the chance.

 

[FOXY005]

Yeah well the 1 time I gelled it was my own fault, I was using Howe's at the time and read the label for the correct amout to use per fill up.



To bad I didn't read the label completely, further down I saw where it said to double that amount for light truck and automotive use. I discovered that little bit of knoweledge that after the gell up and re-reading the amout to use info. DUH !



Oh well a new fuel filter and some 911 to the rescue. Live and learn.

 

[DaveHess]

10-4 to that Jim! Well, everyone have a wonderful and safe Christmas!

 

[AlaskanCummins]

Ahhhh, balmy +14 here in Southcentral Alaska!



Slight snowfall now and the trucks are tucked in at +55 inside the shop.



How does Santa keep the Reindeer from gelling up?



Merry Christmas to all!

 

[FOXY005]

I think it has something to do with those Reindeer being weaned on Yagermiester !

 

[David Pendleton]

Wow, it's cold here too, and I've never put anything in my fuel in 5. 5 years.



Stations here switch diesel sometime in November. Does this not happen out in the boonies?

 

[Flyfishing]

You guys must be doing something wrong during the winter months to have all those starting problems. My '07 lights off just by looking at the key anytime of the year.



Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

 

[DonFitzwater]

Floridy Smart@$$! :-laf It's -41* F and dropping here in Squarebanks... ... ... ... ... ... ... more like square tires!!! Supposed to be -50 to -60 by NEW YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anybody down south need some company? :{



And just to clear up any confusion... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..... the temps are in ambient cause we don't use wind chill up here.

 

[nickleinonen]

you can keep that cold over there. . it was cold enough for me this past week with -20°C [-4°f]. . i know the winter fuel is flowing as my truck is now using a solid 2 liters more per 100km. .